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re: Shea Patterson leaving Calvary Baptist
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:57 am to southeasttiger113
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:57 am to southeasttiger113
quote:
Not gonna lie none of ya'll need to worry about this. IMG isn't a "package deal" school and everyone is so busy training and running around and enjoying their sport that they don't have time to sit around and bullshite about colleges as much as normal high school students do.
At IMG, colleges are viewed as a means to achieve your ultimate goal of playing professional sports, they're not a fad and nobody buys into the hype train. It's why you're not seeing Florida State pull 8 recruits a year from there, nobody's going to flip to Ole Miss because they like Shea or think he's cool. They have a full supporting cast of psychiatrists, coaches, and mentors there to guide them through what the best move for their career is and following Shea Patterson anywhere isn't a good reason to change your life path.
So don't worry about guys like Saivion flipping to Ole Miss after he gets there
no offense but American football kids aren't like the ones you normally associate IMG with. Shea Patterson there will just be able to convince a higher caliber of player to go to Ole Miss
the football players will pal together bc who are they gonna pal with, the golfers?

Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:22 pm to Chaplain
Why hasn't this been moved to the sec recruiting board yet?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:43 pm to Jim Rockford
Guess Calvary ran out of jobs for family members at the Relay Station. Funny how some of the Calvary posters were on here the last couple of years trying to defend Calvary as not being a sports school and providing an education on par with some of the other local magnet schools.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:43 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:No offense but I went to IMG for 4 years, I think I have a better idea of what the social interaction is like there than the average tigerdroppingser
no offense but American football kids aren't like the ones you normally associate IMG with. Shea Patterson there will just be able to convince a higher caliber of player to go to Ole Miss
the football players will pal together bc who are they gonna pal with, the golfers? they will have free time and the subject of college will come up. IMG only added football like two years ago.

ETA: Did you even read my post? The entire point was that I went there from 2005-2009 and out of the insane amount of elite prospects that I knew, there were exactly 0 who made a career decision based off of another person. Everyone bases their college/professional decisions off of what's best for them and their families after talking to their coaches, mentors, and more than likely consultants for the IMG sports agency. A defensive lineman (Shavar Manuel) isn't going to Ole Miss because he likes some random quarterback from Calvary Baptist who he's known for 6 months
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:57 pm to southeasttiger113
you didn't go there when they had football... that's my point. he may not get other guys to commit but he probably will damn sure try. don't you want the best talent playing with you in college?
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:05 pm to chalmetteowl
I still have a house within 10 miles of the school in Sarasota and stay up to date through newsletters, going to games when I have some free time, etc. The school prides itself on a certain mindset that it instills in the athletes. I know for a fact that just because football is a thing there now that the school hasn't completely changed the fact that no matter what sport you play, you talk to the same psychologists, mental conditioning coaches, public speaking coaches, etc. and they're the ones that teach you how to think and make decisions.
Just because a kid throws a brown oblong ball rather than hitting a small white one doesn't give them the liberty to make dumb, immature, knee jerk life decisions under IMG's watch
Just because a kid throws a brown oblong ball rather than hitting a small white one doesn't give them the liberty to make dumb, immature, knee jerk life decisions under IMG's watch
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:10 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:I mean you're right because everyone there always tells your friends "you gotta come to UC irvine with me man" or "come check out Florida State sometime" but when it comes down to making a life changing decision and putting your name on the piece of paper, no one's making a decision based off of another athlete because what's best for Shea Patterson isn't best for Smith, Manuel, or any other athlete with a completely unique background and they stress that heavily at IMG when you're making your decision. There are great athletes to play with at pretty much any power 5 school in the country so that's a nonfactor
he may not get other guys to commit but he probably will damn sure try
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:26 pm to southeasttiger113
as much as you want to say it's a professional environment, they're still dealing with high school seniors...
it is interesting to wonder what exactly goes on there from a social dynamic. with all the multi-sport talent there (and being so new), does the football team still walk around like the stars of the school like they would in 90% of normal high schools? those kids are probably so used to that
is it so professionalized that they don't even give a shite? how will this affect them on the field against the actual high schools they play? will they develop chemistry?
it is interesting to wonder what exactly goes on there from a social dynamic. with all the multi-sport talent there (and being so new), does the football team still walk around like the stars of the school like they would in 90% of normal high schools? those kids are probably so used to that
is it so professionalized that they don't even give a shite? how will this affect them on the field against the actual high schools they play? will they develop chemistry?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:42 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:Yea absolutely, I played soccer and baseball there (eventually just baseball) and the baseball team was the shite when I was there and we were viewed a lot more favorably by the girls, or at least that's what we all thought and nobody was there to tell us otherwise. Honestly they put the tennis players in class with other tennis players, golfers in class with other golfers, etc. so there's really no such thing as social hierarchy there. They literally put you in a social bubble and pound into your brain for 12 hours a day that you're the most athletic, greatest human being ever born to (what I can only assume, to this day I don't know the real reason) get your confidence up so it'll translate to swagger on the field
it is interesting to wonder what exactly goes on there from a social dynamic. with all the multi-sport talent there (and being so new), does the football team still walk around like the stars of the school like they would in 90% of normal high schools?
quote:Idk what you mean by this
is it so professionalized that they don't even give a shite?
quote:Hell yes, they go to school from like 8 AM-1 PM and train with their teammates from 2 PM-~9 PM every night, the team chemistry is unlike anything in the nation
how will this affect them on the field against the actual high schools they play? will they develop chemistry?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:30 pm to southeasttiger113
quote:this happens sometimes where kids are so worried about individual improvement that they forget it's a team sport, and also where high school seniors are just passing through for one year, kind of like it's a 6 month camp. Shea Patterson might be checking his phone for Calvary's score after games and get more excited for his former teammates than his own school's game.
Idk what you mean by this
maybe you'll say it's different, they're internally driven over there, but they don't play for championships. the team will be favored in every game they play so they can't even experience the thrill of an upset
and as for chemistry, it's common sense. kids thrown together in 6 months won't come close to kids that have literally grown up together
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:38 pm to chalmetteowl
If any kid is likely to flip it would be Shea Patterson. Hell he just flipped frkm his damn high school. This kid is a flake. From day one he arrives on campus( wherever that turns out to be) he will be looking for the quickest route to the NFL.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:46 pm to STRIPES
With family like this, maybe we shouldn't count out Auburn
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:32 pm to Jim Rockford
I was listening to the interview with Fletch this morning and after Bachman said Shea is going to IMG to "spread the word of Christ" I mentally tuned out. Also apparently Shea came to Calvary because his father was afraid he'd be a target for kidnapping in their hometown in Texas....that shite is just ludacris.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:35 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:This is possible but highly, highly unlikely. I checked to see what all of my friends were doing at the high school I would've gone to had I stayed in New Orleans for high school and while I was excited for them it had absolutely nothing to do with the way I felt about my teammates or IMG as a whole
this happens sometimes where kids are so worried about individual improvement that they forget it's a team sport, and also where high school seniors are just passing through for one year, kind of like it's a 6 month camp. Shea Patterson might be checking his phone for Calvary's score after games and get more excited for his former teammates than his own school's game.
quote:This isn't really true, we played against the top teams across the country, not just in Florida. We had busses and charter jets to take us wherever we needed to go to NOT be favored so that mindset wouldn't set in. And regardless, IMG gets shite talked a lot by the major players in 6A Florida sports as gimmicky and overrated and there was a really big chip on most of our shoulders to beat their asses and show them that we weren't all hype. An upset isn't the only "thrill" or motivator that can drive an athlete. Ask anyone that played for the Lakers or Yankees when they were on top
maybe you'll say it's different, they're internally driven over there, but they don't play for championships. the team will be favored in every game they play so they can't even experience the thrill of an upset
quote:I'm really, really not trying to be a dick but you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and I lived in that situation for 4 years and know exactly how it was. I spent like 2 hours a day with my teammates in Louisiana only because I had to, and honestly I didn't like a lot of them and a lot of them weren't my friends, they were teammates. The culture at IMG is so welcoming and friendly because everybody there knows exactly how it feels to leave their friends and families behind and know absolutely no one. I'm not exaggerating when I say that within a few weeks I had closer friendships than I made in 14 years in Louisiana and anyone that hasn't gone to school at IMG can't understand that. We also spent literally 12 hours a day with our teammates and it was a 100% positive environment where we supported each other and helped each other get better, there was no petty sports bullshite or politics where parents got involved like in Louisiana. I'm sorry but you have no clue what you're talking about and can't understand it so don't tell me that I'm wrong about my own school or even imply it, you're making good, understandable points but I know what I'm talking about when I say that it's really hard for outsiders to visualize
and as for chemistry, it's common sense. kids thrown together in 6 months won't come close to kids that have literally grown up together
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:41 pm to Duckie
quote:The same kind of high school that's a subsidiary of the biggest and richest sports agency and media firm in the world, whose headmaster also drives a brand new $120,000 BMW M6
What kind of high school has that kind of boosters?

Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:36 pm to ShreveportTiger1987
"I was listening to the interview with Fletch this morning and after Bachman said Shea is going to IMG to "spread the word of Christ" I mentally tuned out. Also apparently Shea came to Calvary because his father was afraid he'd be a target for kidnapping in their hometown in Texas....that shite is just ludacris."
You must not have listened very well. He said " I don't know why Shea ended up at IMG...maybe it's to spread the Word of Christ." ( If you know Coach Bachman, then you know that's his mission statement) Also he said " There were kidnappings in the area of Hidalgo ( literally right on the Mexican Border ) and his dad didn't feel safe."
You must not have listened very well. He said " I don't know why Shea ended up at IMG...maybe it's to spread the Word of Christ." ( If you know Coach Bachman, then you know that's his mission statement) Also he said " There were kidnappings in the area of Hidalgo ( literally right on the Mexican Border ) and his dad didn't feel safe."
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:07 pm to Caddo
Woke up and determined the word of Christ needed to be spread at IMG?
Ok.
And was afraid of crime where?
Shea lives in Shreveport, right?
Have you checked crime stats in Bradenton, Fl.?
That's an incredible argument..
Try again.
Ok.
And was afraid of crime where?
Shea lives in Shreveport, right?
Have you checked crime stats in Bradenton, Fl.?
That's an incredible argument..
Try again.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:21 pm to Jim Rockford
Wow. That Calvary coach sure sounds steamed:
quote:
Bachman: I'm going to discourage 7-on-7's that don't have Calvary wrapped around it. (Shea played in 7-on-7 at IMG recently/toured facility)
quote:
Bachman: when Cam Newton is in your ear talking about IMG... Can't compete with that
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:23 pm to nitwit
The crime in south Texas near the Mexican border, where Shea came from.
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