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re: Sentimore, Byrd, Molton
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:41 am to Cash
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:41 am to Cash
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That's not the point. You are saying he is our number 2nd option next year so we will be fine. I am saying he hasn't proven anything yet, so it is kind of scary going into 2010 with one prove WR.
I can't believe people are seriously worried about RB/WR next year. You can chalk up the little experience part all you want which is legit but what are the real chances of us suffering at either position?
Newsflash: We've recruited some of the best players in the country at these positions the past few years and have constantly not had problems at either position. Let's all not forget Justin Vincent never carried the football before 2003 for us. Charles Scott and Keiland Williams never carried the football before 2006 for us. Dwayne Bowe, Craig Davis, Early Doucet and Brandon LaFell never caught a pass before their LSU careers started (for us).
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Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:42 am to flucobaseball
I think the receiving and RB corps will be fine. Lots of young talent waiting to step up. They'll also have a veteran QB to get them the ball.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:43 am to thunderbird1100
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thunderbird1100
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Stop whining Rantard
BOOM!!!
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:43 am to Cash
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shite is it so hard to admit we could have used Laron Byrd?
Yes because then the almighty Les would've made a mistakes. Everyone knows he is flawless.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:44 am to JJ27
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Because he was a fricking nobody who no one had ever heard of before. Jones is a fricking 4 star with offers from Oklahoma, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Auburn.
And maybe the coaches didn't feel comfortable offering Jones because of whatever reason UNLESS they talked to/evaluated him. Just because he's a 4-star means we should offer? the only school on that offer sheet that even matters to us would be Oklahoma. Who cares if Arkansas, Ole Miss and Auburn offered? They routinely take players we would never take.
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I guess Blackmon's coach is better than Jones because he packed him up and brought him to camp. Jones was stuck. Good reason to not offer him
You still have danced around me asking if he's DYING to come to LSU as you claim why did he ignore us the entire summer?
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:46 am to thunderbird1100
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You still have danced around me asking if he's DYING to come to LSU as you claim why did he ignore us the entire summer?
No I didn't. I said multiple times he didn't have a ride. He was stuck in BFE. Have you ever been to JC? It's about the size of...I can't think of anything close to Baton Rouge to compare it to...Satsuma maybe?
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:47 am to thunderbird1100
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I can't believe people are seriously worried about RB/WR next year.
All I said is that we are an injury or a NFL defection(not likely) from being thin at WR next year and that we could have used Byrd. It's not a stretch.
The class he came out in we took Benton(grades issues) and Molton(grades and character issues) so hindsight being 20/20 Byrd would have been a good pickup(although I said so at the time).
And if WR depth was of no concern why was the rant so worried when it was announced Molton had left the team?
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:47 am to Cash
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So you wouldn't want another 6'4" athletic kic with good hands who likely would have been our third WR this year on the roster?
Sure, but we thought we had Benton. I completely disagree that it was poor talent evaluation and that we have been slacking in recruiting. We had a 6'2 or 6'3 guy that could fly and was impressing, in Molton, but he got hurt and transferred.
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shite is it so hard to admit we could have used Laron Byrd?
Who said we coudln't use him?
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And if WR depth was of no concern why was the rant so worried when it was announced Molton had left the team?
Well, we are talking about the rant..
I don't think anyone is happy about losing Molton. I could be wrong.
This post was edited on 9/18/09 at 9:48 am
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:47 am to outsideroach
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Cal, our coaches fricked this one up. LaRon was all LSU but LSU never offered, instead we offered Tim Molten. Everyone who had seen them play said LaRon was better.
It was pretty well known we were letting a blue chip get away.
Just another frick up to add to Miles' growing list.
Well, if that's the case, why dont you go and be a head coach and then you can recruit all the guys you want. The problem with this is that you weren't in the room with the coaches when they were deciding. The year that byrd came out, we got chris tolliver (a 4 star) and deangelo benton (a 5 star), now i know that you are going to say that neither tolliver nor benton have done anything and in fact benton never made it to LSU. And while that is true, and please listen to this carefully, RECRUITING IS A HIT OR MISS GAME!!! SOmetimes 5 stars never pan out while 2 and 3 stars get drafted in the first or second round (jacob hester and glenn dorsey). It happens, get over it. We already had 3 other wide receivers that had committed to LSU, we didn't need 4. So Byrd misses out, goes to miami and before last night had 0 catches this year. But our coaches messed up. You really are unbelievebly stupid. Teams miss out on people in their state EVERY SINGLE YEAR. It happens. We can't sign everyone. Your comment about our team going downhill is also amazing seeing as how we had the number 2 ranked recruiting class last year and this year we are number 2 again with 2 other guys maybe coming that will put us in the top 3 again.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:47 am to JJ27
Just looked it up and JC had a whopping 721 residents at the last census.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:48 am to Orly
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Why is this a stupid post?
If anything is stupid, it's the way we've been recruiting the past few years.
Passing on Sentimore = HUGE loss.
Passing on CM = HUGE loss (seriously, imagine the backfield next year with MF, RM, and CM, along with the freshman backs).
Byrd = Another HUGE loss. Imagine LaRon, Toliver, and Randle as the starting 3 next year.
Losing these 3 were huge. Period. And if we start to make mistakes like this year in and year out, it will bring us down.
next time you have a thought, just let it go
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:48 am to JJ27
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Yes because then the almighty Les would've made a mistakes. Everyone knows he is flawless.
That's not the problem for me. Every single coach has their issues. All of them, none are perfect.
What bothers me is that people claim this is yet another stepping stone on the road to the bottom that Miles is pulling us along somehow.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:49 am to Cash
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Some of these kids from poor rural areas don't have access to thing you and I take from granted.
I don't know if that is the case for Jones.
If I am not mistaken, he missed the second camp to go on vacation with his family. I don't know what their vacation budget was, but if he missing camp for the family trip it wouldn't be a stretch to think that he could have gotten a ride down for the first camp.
This chapter is also hardly over. The staff may go evaluate him or may have already evaluated him and found something that made them choose to go elsewhere.
I'm not about to defend the decision to pass on Byrd over Molton and Benton. The staff has had misses (all staffs do).
I will give the staff a bit of latitude as i can't imagine trying to manage the recruiting process. For example, if the rumors that Trent Richardson was going to sign with LSU on signing day were true, obviously that changes the needs and could explain why you pass on Christine Michael. We also had the Rayville kid until signing day at WR.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:49 am to hobo with a rolex
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Yes because then the almighty Les would've made a mistakes. Everyone knows he is flawless
This whole thing has gone way over your head. Nobody has said we couldn't use Byrd.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:49 am to JJ27
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So 100% of their players come from camps or from in state?
100% of our players come from evaluations the coaches feel comfortable enough in offering the kids.
They did not feel comfortable offering Byran Jones. Maybe he should of come to a camp.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:50 am to flucobaseball
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Sure, but we thought we had Benton. I completely disagree that it was poor talent evaluation and that we have been slacking in recruiting. We had a 6'2 or 6'3 guy that could fly and was impressing, in Molton, but he got hurt and transferred.
Once again a grades question mark and a grades/character question mark at a position with a high attrition to begin with.
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Who said we coudln't use him?
Read the thread.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:51 am to JJ27
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You calling me a rantard... That's good stuff, I like it. Jones will be a monster while Blackmon chills with Rocky D on the sidelines.
Yes, you're being rantarded right now.
And could you go ahead tell me the lotto numbers for tonight Miss Cleo?
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:52 am to OldIowaTiger
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What bothers me is that people claim this is yet another stepping stone on the road to the bottom that Miles is pulling us along somehow
I don't think Miles is pulling LSU down. I think he is maintaining what Saban built. I do think he still thinks he's at Oklahoma State sometimes though. Some of the kids he offers very early forces him to pass on much better talent. It's as if he would rather take someone that's less heralded just so he could say, "Ha, I found another diamond in the rough."
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:52 am to CalLSU
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Well, if that's the case, why dont you go and be a head coach and then you can recruit all the guys you want.
The go to response for the truely clueless.
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:53 am to Cash
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So you wouldn't want another 6'4" athletic kic with good hands who likely would have been our third WR this year on the roster?
shite is it so hard to admit we could have used Laron Byrd?
Tim Molton was likely going to be our #3 this year before he got hurt. It's not the coaches fault he tore his ACL.
It's not like the coaches can see 2 years down the road if a kid will seriously injure himself or not.
This post was edited on 9/18/09 at 9:54 am
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