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Sellout season

Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted by reddingoo
Athens, GA
Member since Feb 2020
124 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:05 pm
I think next years LSU team is the beginning of a new contender. Ignore how horrible Bo is this season for just a second and imagine a truly full offseason where Coach Raymond gets to teach his guys to have better technique, communication will be better (huge issues this year), and we will have mostly a group of guys who will be there as starters for 2-3 more seasons. Miles was off to a hot start before his injury and he also gets to build better chemistry with the young group of WRs, RBs, and the best TE in the country. 2021 will be a young group of guys who in my opinion will play with 100x the energy and effort, especially when they're in front of 100k fans in Tiger Stadium. We may have 2-3 losses but that team will return 90% or more for the 2022 season. Recruiting those key players for the remaining spots has never been more important. They can turn this thing around quick. Leigh, Byrd, Smith, Foreman, etc are just a few names that we may see on the field next season. The rebuild starts in December. Lets GEAUX!!!
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:33 pm to
I'm not buying it. Every other team is dealing with the same problems we are but they're handling it better. Think you have some serious issues within the program right now that might take longer than an offseason to fix.

The only thing you can argue is LSU lost everything including coaches. Problem with this though is all the current returning players on this team especially on defense have regressed including Stingley. Somethings not right. Think it goes much more deeper than just Bo.

I think we recruited much worse than we think recently. None of the CBs on this team look like they belong outside Stingley/Ricks. Same with the safeties. LBs too. They have some serious fundamental issues on both offense and defense. Oline will not be fixed for a few more years.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 5:37 pm
Posted by reddingoo
Athens, GA
Member since Feb 2020
124 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:54 pm to
For one, basically all of the 2018 class is gone. What's also wrong is we didn't "block out the noise". If you follow these guys online, they've had all the swagger of a championship team but none of the game. Guys were flexing rings and partying instead of grinding and staying hungry, including the coach. Nothing would make me want to win more than getting my arse kicked for an entire season. These guys come to LSU to get to the next level. It's what we do at LSU. There will be no breaks this off season. Coach O is from Louisiana so he knows how the entire state feels rn. The intensity will be unparalleled. 2021 will bring back weaker opponents outside the SEC and nearly all SEC teams are losing their QB after this season, we aren't. Trust me, F Bo, I think he is the issue, but we have too much talent and a few coaches left from that title team that will feel disrespected and want to come out playing LSU football again.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:55 pm to
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I'm not buying it. Every other team is dealing with the same problems we are but they're handling it better.

Real tired of seeing this kinda bullshite.

There has literally NEVER been a title team lose as much as we did in a single offseason. Almost half the roster gone.
New coaches.
No offseason.
All SEC schedule
Late opt outs of big time expected starters.
QB injured Q1 of the 3rd game.

It’s not excuses, they’re reasons why this team isn’t doing well.

I don’t know why people can’t see this and just blindly spout shite off like one year wonder or ohhh well looks like they’re back in the dumps.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1597 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:57 pm to
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I don’t know why people can’t see this and just blindly spout shite off like one year wonder or ohhh well looks like they’re back in the dumps.


Not able to reason and work totally off emotion.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19070 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 6:39 pm to
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I'm not buying it. Every other team is dealing with the same problems we are but they're handling it better.


No they are not. We were great last year because most of the draft eligible players came back from 2018 and we did not lose much in production to the draft and graduation. Show me how many SEC teams are down 38 players from the previous year.

2021 sets up similar but not as strong as the 2018 team because we will not lose any body of consequence other than Marshall and maybe Ingram.
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
1120 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 7:07 pm to
Really? Every other team lost 23 players? They all lost DCs and OCs? Wow that IS AMAZING!!!
Posted by East Texas Tiger 99
East Texas
Member since Nov 2013
514 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 7:20 pm to
"There has literally NEVER been a title team lose as much as we did in a single offseason. Almost half the roster gone."

If my calculations are correct,, at present we have 43 Players that were on scholarship on last years team. Of that 43:

2 were injured all year in 2019.
3 were specialists.
9 were red shirted or did not letter.
8 that were pretty much Special teamers only.
22 of the 43

We only had 22 that played many meaningful snaps! Some not many at all.

I honestly don't believe any team ever lost that many!

Then 2 of 4 Coordinators are gone from staff and several other very key coaches and consultants.

This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 7:22 pm to
I think you're missing the point. The program culture right now looks toxic for whatever reason. There's zero drive, zero leadership, and zero pride on this team right now. That's a locker room problem that extends much deeper than recruiting.

Complain all you want about players leaving you're still seeing all the players from last year regress. If you want to use Covid as an excuse every other team in the SEC is dealing with the same problem.

Oline is a direct result of poor evaluations and recruiting right now not just because they lost players but they whiffed hard on many players the past few classes. That's a recruiting and development issue. It extends outward in several positions on this team which is another reason you have a historically bad team right now right after a NC. It's a perfect storm of bad between covid, losing players/coaches, and poorly recruiting on top of development.

RBs look like a bust right now.

The DBs don't look good.

The LBs don't look good.

The Oline has major depth problems on top of lacking higher end talent.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 7:27 pm
Posted by reddingoo
Athens, GA
Member since Feb 2020
124 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 7:24 pm to
So basically what we are all saying is....We Comin'
Posted by East Texas Tiger 99
East Texas
Member since Nov 2013
514 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 7:29 pm to
I do agree that there is a disconnect for sure, but honestly I think its way deeper than Covid. The social justice issue was not handled nearly as smooth as some teams handled it,, but we also could be where Texas is with a much worse disconnect.
Not sure who is to blame for that disconnect but there ABSOLUTELY was one. Hopefully we never have those type situations again that are not handled better by all.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3132 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 12:25 am to
Emery and Davis-Price are both really good backs, what do you expect them to do when the OLine is getting wrecked constantly against any half decent team.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42644 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 7:13 am to
Not every team is dealing with it
Clemson Bama and Ohio St all had full teams come back with no major opt outs
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 9:20 am to
You don't think that's a credit to the program culture at those 2 places?
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 9:23 am to
I agree, the line sucks but these 2 backs don't have any vision. There's many times where they hit holes and can make big runs but they're not seeing the lanes. Emery would rather sit on the sidelines and laugh at our team than work hard to be a better RB for his team. Talented but right now they both look like busts. They have opportunities even on a bad line and aren't doing much with them.
Posted by SD Tigerz
Member since Oct 2019
69 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 1:12 pm to
Maybe a bit, but its moreso they are serious contenders again this year. Clemson and Ohio State were returning Heisman favorite QB's, and Alabama has an axe to grind after the arse kicking they took in the NC game and then last season. Like it or not, LSU was not going to be a serious contender again this year, and I do not blame those kids for cashing in on their years of hard work. Jesus, they delivered a title to this school, what more can you ask for? Plus, I think everyone who left early other than Charles went in the first 3 rounds, so they all made the right call. Its next man up and time to move forward.

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