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Posted by BigB0882
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:14 am to
Oh, I know Johnson is far more accomplished. I guess I didn’t realize that 2 of Hu’s awards were Specialist and not Freshmen. I thought they had an equal amount of Freshmen awards (didn’t pay attention that one of Kiya’s was Gymnast!).
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:15 pm to
2020 SEC Gymnastics Community Service Team was Announced. LSU's RUBY HARROLD was named to the team today.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67950 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:44 am to
4 LSU gymnasts earn all American honors

Kiya Johnson earned three first team all American honors (AA, vault, floor)


Second Team:

Reagan Campbell (Beam)
Ruby Harold (vault)
Kennedi edney (vault)

Total AA honors by school:

Florida-9
LSU-6
Kentucky-3
Auburn-2
Missouri-2
Arkansas-2
Alabama-1
Georgia-1





This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by Twz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:00 pm to
Congrats to our four!
The most striking thing about that list to me is Georgia and Alabama only having one, last in SEC...wow.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 8:32 pm to
A healthy LSU team in March would have pushed Florida in the SEC meet and might have four- peated. If Kiya could match Trinity volley for volley the Gators might have begun their late season collapse.
Posted by BigB0882
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:31 am to
How do they decide on the cut off? I know at Nationals it is top 4 from each session. So does that mean regular season honors are top 8 for first team and the next 8 for 2nd team?

I feel bad that Trinity will be a junior next year and still will not have competed at Nationals with her team.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:38 am to
Student-athletes with the top eight National Qualifying Scores (NQS) for the regular season (with ties), for each event plus the all-around earned All-America honors. Second Team All-America honors were earned by student-athletes ranked Nos. 9-16 (with ties) in the NQS.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 12:46 pm to
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I feel bad that Trinity will be a junior next year and still will not have competed at Nationals with her team.



She may have been the deciding factor in winning national title last yer if she had signed with LSU as expected during her recruiting. If the reason she spurned LSU was true as reported by those with knowledge I would have no compassion.
Posted by geauxxtjgerss
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:06 pm to
What was the reason she didn't sign to LSU?
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:15 pm to
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What was the reason she didn't sign to LSU?


It was reported by someone on this board who appears to have close contacts with involved parties that she dropped LSU because one of the coaches tweeted in support of Donald Trump and MAGA. I trust the source but there may be more to it. It was also supposed to be a UCLA and LSU battle, then suddenly Florida was her choice out of the blue.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:14 pm to
Trinity chose Florida over LSU and UCLA for a few reasons (some personal) but it is what it is. We simply didn't win that recruiting battle, we have won many of our fair shares (Lexie Priessman, Sarah Finnegan, Kiya Johnson) among really notable examples. Kiya Johnson was almost Georgia bound before we flipped her the summer leading up to signing day. We beat out Georgia and Florida for Elena Arenas. LSU beat out OU for Annie Beard. Win some you lose some, LSU is in a great position talent wise for the future. Getting kids healthy this offseason with the addition of that incoming recruiting class, LSU is set up for a big year with much more depth across the board.


LSU finally announced the all Americans



Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:47 am to
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. Win some you lose some


I thought when the training facility opened and combined with an already elite Top 4 program that LSU recruiting would be like Alabama football and Kentucky and Duke basketball where they would clearly separate from the rest. Certainly three runnersup finishes in four years may attest to that, but it does not seem over the course of the last four regular seasons they have created a large gap in talent. However, when the post season light s have shone brightest they have brought it for the most part. How do you assess the impact of the facility?

Maybe Mckenna and Lexie's injuries and the injuries this season have masked the level of talent that has been brought in.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67950 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:18 am to
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I thought when the training facility opened and combined with an already elite Top 4 program that LSU recruiting would be like Alabama football and Kentucky and Duke basketball where they would clearly separate from the rest. Certainly three runnersup finishes in four years may attest to that, but it does not seem over the course of the last four regular seasons they have created a large gap in talent. However, when the post season light s have shone brightest they have brought it for the most part. How do you assess the impact of the facility?


I think LSU has turned the corner as a program for two big reasons. First LSU brought in jay Clark. LSU has not had the talent to compete with the national powers for years. We may have gotten some great gymnasts here and there but not enough to compete at the team level. Jay is one of the best recruiters out there. You really could credit many national titles to him from his crazy amount of talent he brought in to Georgia. The new facility is incredible is a game changer as well, it’s also helped recruit and make lasting impressions. Alyona coming to LSU for national team camp gave her a big exposure and she ended up wanting to come to LSU down the road. Olivia Dunne, Tori Tatum and Elena were blown away by the facilities. It’s been pretty significant for us as a program and it even impacts how much more efficient they can train.

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Maybe Mckenna and Lexie's injuries and the injuries this season have masked the level of talent that has been brought in.


LSU’s biggest issue right now is overall team health and health of incoming freshmen. Desiderio, Dean, Campbell all came to LSU behind the ball. Many of them missed multiple years of JO before LSU which put them behind on their development. Ferrer had some nagging injuries that restricted her training. She missed this year for other reasons. Kai came no where close to giving us her best because of a severe ankle injury. Alyona rushed just to put out a bars routine. She really would give us a lot more if she weren’t coming off the Achilles. Throw in injuries to Ryan, Edney and Edwards we are throwing a lot of routines out there we don’t want.

There are some clear spots on the team that are weaker than the past teams but overall health is not allowing kids to develop and build. They are either rolling to LSU in crutches or struggle staying health for competition
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 1:22 am
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:23 am to
I don't believe elevating Jay to co head coach was intended to be a long term arrangement. It was done to justify paying him enough to retain him until DD beams as her program finally vaults to the highest bar and purple and gold confetti litters Four on the Floor.

With that elusive title trophy she ends an incredible climb to the top and Jay once again replaces a legend. This time he aint backing down and LSU becomes the premier program in the country.

Do you think Danna Durante might end up on the staff once Sami completes her eligibility?

Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
1213 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:17 am to
I don't see Dana as a good fit at LSU. If anything, if DD were to retire soon, I'd rather see a former gymnast assume the assistant coaching role (i.e. bring Gnat back).
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10382 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:23 pm to
I agreethat Bugs would be a great addition as she would have a few years experience as a full time assistant by then, would be in the 25 - 30 year old range and would relate well to the team.

Assume Bob Moore might also be retiring in next few years which would create two openings on staff. Just curious as to why you don't believe Danna Durante would be a good fit. Seems with her successful coaching background and connections she would be another strong recruiter, although I admit I don't have the insider knowledge that some of you do.







This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 6:03 pm
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
774 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 5:19 pm to
I don’t really feel sorry for any gymnasts that go to compete for an underachieving, national bars coach in Jenny Rowland. Just my opinion. She should have won at least 1 national title in the last 3 years. I think she should have to recused herself of national bars person. when she took a head coaching job or is she not doing that anymore?
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67950 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

I don't see Dana as a good fit at LSU. If anything, if DD were to retire soon, I'd rather see a former gymnast assume the assistant coaching role (i.e. bring Gnat back).



Dana is a great person but IMO is not what this program needs right now. I don't see the fit. From what I heard she does want to go back into coaching as soon as Sami's career finishes next year. She seems to be soaking in these last few years of her gymnastics right now.

When/if Jay is HC, he will probably bring in probably another big recruiter/and or someone very focused on the technical foundation of their gymnastics. There are a few things he would do different than what DD does. Not sure how long Bob wants to coach but he seems to love what he does. He has been good for us. He will have a lot to work with the next couple years with Bryant, Dunne, Arenas, Finnegan, Tatum and Johnson coming in.
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
1213 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:42 pm to
I’ve been watching a lot of gymnastics on YouTube these past two weeks...mainly LSU vs. Florida. My focus was mainly how the former elites (the seniors) have fared once they got to college. I focused on Gowey, Hundley, and Chant mostly. I think where Jenny Rowland has fallen short with her elites is that they often have watered down vaults, often only doing fulls. Some don’t even make the vault lineup. They keep their skills on the other events. So basically Florida is relying on their lessor known gymnasts to bring in huge vault scores, which doesn’t always happen. I don’t know if it’s the conditioning or what, but that’s the biggest problem I see with Florida over the past few years.

And I’m kinda happy that Dunne and Arenas quit doing elite gymnastics a few years before they came to college. Their bodies are in much better shape, although Dunne has had a few injuries the past two years. Hopefully they both stay healthy for next year.
Posted by Twz
Member since Dec 2018
437 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 3:33 pm to
Totally re Dunne and Arenas leaving elite. Plus now schools like UCLA might lose most of their incoming class for the ‘20-21 season since those girls want to try for the 2021 olympics.
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