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re: Recruiting conspiracy????
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:28 pm to purpgold718
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:28 pm to purpgold718
quote:
Yeah where are the gumpfrickers to chime in huh? did they try the calculations out for themselves and realize that if they if they tried to objectively say we wrong they'd be called out for their dumb "gump math" skills hahah
gumps...
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Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:29 pm to Roaad
quote:
AAAAAAAAAATTTIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
+ fricking 1 for bank robbery for sex change reference.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:30 pm to Goose
meltdown level if rivals came out and admitted a mistake only for Jackson to sign with the Vols tomorrow and Bama finishes #1 anyway?
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:32 pm to Trojan Ace
Rivals is a fricking joke
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:33 pm to G4LSU
best to wait 'til all the votes are tallied
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:48 pm to Trojan Ace
The reason for the 40pts is simple. When a player switches from from other teams to Bama they get extra points. Its in the rules. 
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:48 pm to wallowinit
this thread needs to be stickied at the top until rivals/gumpland answer the charges against them!!
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:49 pm to Trojan Ace
Guys, I hate to do this but...... 
I'm come to the conclusion that it is possible for Alabama to have 2,786 points in fact they could have up to 2,791 depending on variable N in the Burton Formula: H*(n/(n + m)) + L * (m / (n + m)
Since the points for position ranks have different cutoffs, I have used two different "N"s, Nh (High N) and Nl (Low N) rather than attempt to guess where the cutoff is for each position
Nh = Variable N giving all position ranked players 6 and after +8
Nl = Variable N giving only position ranked players 6 to 10 +8
I believe using Nh and Nl is better than attempting to guess where the position rank cutoff is for every position. This method provides us with a range of points a team could have.
My Spreadsheet
My Calculations
If you have found where the exact cutoff is for each position or a way to find the exact number for N, please let me know
As well, PLEASE tear apart my work as I kinda want it to be wrong. I only did the actual math hoping to find that Rivals did screw us...
I'm come to the conclusion that it is possible for Alabama to have 2,786 points in fact they could have up to 2,791 depending on variable N in the Burton Formula: H*(n/(n + m)) + L * (m / (n + m)
Since the points for position ranks have different cutoffs, I have used two different "N"s, Nh (High N) and Nl (Low N) rather than attempt to guess where the cutoff is for each position
Nh = Variable N giving all position ranked players 6 and after +8
Nl = Variable N giving only position ranked players 6 to 10 +8
I believe using Nh and Nl is better than attempting to guess where the position rank cutoff is for every position. This method provides us with a range of points a team could have.
My Spreadsheet
My Calculations
If you have found where the exact cutoff is for each position or a way to find the exact number for N, please let me know
As well, PLEASE tear apart my work as I kinda want it to be wrong. I only did the actual math hoping to find that Rivals did screw us...
This post was edited on 2/4/09 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 2/4/09 at 8:50 pm to houstontiger
The best part would be Rivals trying to reconcile that gushing article about Bama about going back to back.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:02 pm to Bull Tiger7
Thats the point,they need to be open about the cut-offs
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:06 pm to jcook21
We have three players that basically get no points because Rivals didn't rank them.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:12 pm to jcook21
quote:they vary-- depending on where bama and bama rivals are sitting
Thats the point,they need to be open about the cut-offs
quote:are you saying the cutoffs are different year to year?
jcook21
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:14 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Yes but they've hinted that kickers end around 10 and WR at around 50
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:16 pm to jcook21
quote:
We have three players that basically get no points because Rivals didn't rank them.
Who are the players?
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:17 pm to Born to be a Tiger
quote:
Born to be a Tiger
Where you been, boss?
How's Lache doing?
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:26 pm to Bull Tiger7
You dont find it convenient that in your calcs that LSU is at the absolute bottom and Bama is at the near top of each range respectivly? This stinks to high heavens
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:30 pm to Luke4LSU
Lache is having fun playing basketball and enjoying life.
As for me I spend a lot of time on the small family ranch during the fall and winter months. I try to hunt and take care of some cattle while I am out there. This is when I get to spend time with my mom and dad when they come up to stay on their small ranch which borders mine. I only come into town for work, football games and band activities involving my kids.
As for me I spend a lot of time on the small family ranch during the fall and winter months. I try to hunt and take care of some cattle while I am out there. This is when I get to spend time with my mom and dad when they come up to stay on their small ranch which borders mine. I only come into town for work, football games and band activities involving my kids.
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:48 pm to Trojan Ace
Rivals must have hired a Gump to program their puters....
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:33 pm to Ferriday
Have any of the Rivals guys responded to any of the emails
This post was edited on 2/4/09 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 2/4/09 at 10:42 pm to Ferriday
911 was Bush's idea i bet 
Here you go.. you can remove your tin foil hats hats
Here you go.. you can remove your tin foil hats hats
quote:
The only thing I see that doesn't work is that they count the position value (24,18,8) of all recruits, not just the top 20 (which is what was done in the spreadsheet posted). I have had a running tally all year long and they have counted all position values.
quote:
I've never posted here, probably never will again. But for all the LSU crying conspiracy, this post is spot on.
N values do not cut off at the top 20. It takes every recruit into account. For Alabama, N came out to be 390. The LSU guy's spreadsheet only took into account the top 20 which is why he has us at 343. I even did the LSU numbers to make sure this was correct.
For Bama, H = 3110, L = 256, N = 390, which if you put into the formula gives Bama 2,786 if you round. This is what Rivals has.
For LSU, H = 3090, L = 254, N = 382, which if you put into the formula gives LSU 2,762 if you round. This is what Rivals has.
So there is no conspiracy, the LSU guy just had N calculated wrong because he cut it off at the top 20. FWIW, LSU had 6 guys get 0 points for N while Bama only had 1. There, now I think everyone can sleep better tonight
This post was edited on 2/4/09 at 10:46 pm
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