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re: Per Johnny Jones: John Isaac probably won't be back
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:43 pm to Jester
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:43 pm to Jester
quote:Sure there is, just not a NLI.
There is no more signing. That ship has passed. You won't know for sure until they attend class.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:43 pm to Gravitiger
quote:
Sure there is, just not a NLI.
I guess they can sign autographs. They just can't sell them.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:50 pm to Jester
Once they sign scholarship papers, the school can announce and discuss the player.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:13 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:
Reclassifying is a poor term. Very rarely, basically never, does a basketball player graduate early.
Probably 99 percent of the time, these kids are prep school kids who are just reverting back to their original class, or to a class just one year ahead of normal rather than two.
It's been happening for years. Muhammed didn't change. Noel actually moved to his correct class. He had repeated a grade when he went from public school to prep.
Everything you said is entirely correct, but the 2012 class is the weakest group of players I have ever seen and that's why I think a lot of guys from 2013 took an extra class or two to become members of the 2012 group (Noel and Purvis in particular).
Also, we are seeing fewer guys like Tyler Hansbrough stay 5 years in high school when they are dominating the competition, which is why the top 2 2014 kids, Andrew Wiggins and Noah Vonleh, are looking at joining the 2013 class.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:16 pm to Keys Open Doors
What I'm surprised we don't see more of is players going to prep school and then declaring for the NBA draft. They are eligible one year after their original class graduates.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:25 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:
Once they sign scholarship papers, the school can announce and discuss the player.
When are they allowed to sign scholarship papers?
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:30 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:
What I'm surprised we don't see more of is players going to prep school and then declaring for the NBA draft
they can go to the D-league or europe as well and get paid. They obviously are getting taken care of very well in college
Posted on 5/23/12 at 3:38 pm to Bubba Hotep
John Wall thought about doing this, but he ended up going to Kentucky. Can't remember anyone else thinking about it. At the time that Wall thought about it, I remember reading some NBA Draft.net post about how the NBA might challenge the definition of original class graduation dates, based on transfers.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:00 pm to Jester
I don't have a definite answer. I tried to research this but I didn't find an exact answer. Basically the NCAA does not require a player to sign a letter of intent. Virtually everywhere the letter of intent was referenced, it was followed by the verbage "or the institution’s written offer
of admission and/or financial aid."
It did say that a player could not sign scholarship papers prior to the signing period, but it did not say specifically say that you couldn't afterwards.
It is my understanding that you can sign scholarship papers anytime during or after the signing period, but they are not binding. They do, however, authorize the school and the coach to publicly talk about you.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:02 pm to Keys Open Doors
Drummond at UConn thought about it as well. He will end up getting drafted in about the same spot as he would've a year before. Basically risked a lot for nothing.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:05 pm to Jester
quote:They still sign scholarship papers with the school, and that is when the school will make an announcement.
I guess they can sign autographs. They just can't sell them.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:17 pm to Bubba Hotep
So Isaac's departure entirely based on academics?
Hamilton, Isaac, Turner, Warren, White, Bass all gone. This team is going to look very different next year.
Just 5 players are returning, I believe.
Hamilton, Isaac, Turner, Warren, White, Bass all gone. This team is going to look very different next year.
Just 5 players are returning, I believe.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:36 pm to Keys Open Doors
5 scholarship players returning, for now. Who knows if more are leaving, althought I doubt it. The only other possibility IMO, would be Stringer.
4 signees so far.
Odoh would make 5, which would be 10 scholarship players.
I'm not sure how many Johnny wants to give out this year. I don't know how realistic Pollard and/or Collins are.
4 signees so far.
Odoh would make 5, which would be 10 scholarship players.
I'm not sure how many Johnny wants to give out this year. I don't know how realistic Pollard and/or Collins are.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:49 pm to Bubba Hotep
Why is it that Isaac PROBABLY won't be back? Is there something that would allow him to stay, assuming he is leaving for academic concerns like reported
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:51 pm to Geaux_Time
he's gone brah....just let go
quote:
@lsukent
LSU Coach Johnny Jones said guard John Isaac will not return for 2012-13 season. Isaac failed to meet institutional, NCAA requirements.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 6:01 pm to natedawgslu10
LSU will sign another guard for sure, IMO. If not Collins, then a graduate transfer.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 6:38 pm to natedawgslu10
Haha i'm not trying to hold on to it, I was just seeing if there was any chance he comes back. I feel he wouldn't play much next year anyways
Posted on 5/24/12 at 10:37 am to Geaux_Time
So, how does this affect the work of the Patron Saint of APR?
Posted on 5/24/12 at 10:56 am to Jester
Shouldn't have any negative affect. LSU had 4 players graduate and Ralston Turner transferred in good academic standing.
The APR problems occur when you have more people leaving in poor standing than good standing.
The APR problems occur when you have more people leaving in poor standing than good standing.
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