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Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:39 am to Rohan Gravy
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Off the top of my head Patrick Surtain Jr.
He was never committed to LSU, so he wasn't a flip. Who else you got? I'm sure there have been one or two, but I really can't think of any.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:02 pm to whitefoot
We’ve lost several in state kids in the past.
That’s why Coach O is building the fence and recruiting nationwide now.
Kids from California to Baltimore are going to at least take a look at LSU now.
The problem with losing in state kids that you have “penciled in” is the time and expense that you’ve lost.
I’m sure we spend years recruiting an in state prospect.
After all that time...I would hope that they should know by the early signing period if they don’t want to go to LSU.
And there’s nothing wrong with that...just don’t string anybody along.
The Sopsher guy comes to mind.
That’s why Coach O is building the fence and recruiting nationwide now.
Kids from California to Baltimore are going to at least take a look at LSU now.
The problem with losing in state kids that you have “penciled in” is the time and expense that you’ve lost.
I’m sure we spend years recruiting an in state prospect.
After all that time...I would hope that they should know by the early signing period if they don’t want to go to LSU.
And there’s nothing wrong with that...just don’t string anybody along.
The Sopsher guy comes to mind.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:03 pm to Lsupimp
You won't be a coach long if you try and tell elite kids it's now or never. Hell, if anybody could do that it would be Bama and even Saban doesn't try to dictate terms like that. A number of elite guys haven't announced for Bama until signing day recently.
Sopsher
Surtain
Waddle
Ray
Ruggs
Devonta Smith
If anybody can say "next" it is Alabama, and they don't even do it with certain kids.
Sopsher
Surtain
Waddle
Ray
Ruggs
Devonta Smith
If anybody can say "next" it is Alabama, and they don't even do it with certain kids.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:12 pm to SoloTiger
The game changed a little with the early signing period. You lock up as many of your top targets early as you can, get commits from a few lower down the board in needed positions, then do some shuffling later on if an elite prospect decides to sign with you.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:15 pm to LSU Patrick
That is how Bama typically operates. They don't mind processing kids late.
It can be a sensitive issue with burning bridges with coaches/schools, but Saban has proven he will bring in the best he can regardless of the optics.
It can be a sensitive issue with burning bridges with coaches/schools, but Saban has proven he will bring in the best he can regardless of the optics.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:17 pm to SoloTiger
I agree with you and pimp.
I think LSU is now recruiting from a position of strength.
If I’m not mistaken, we will actually turn down some very good in state players this year.
You’re right about Saban, but I don’t think he gets very many surprises late in the process.
And having the #1 class in the country for the last ten years it doesn’t hurt you that much.
I think LSU is now recruiting from a position of strength.
If I’m not mistaken, we will actually turn down some very good in state players this year.
You’re right about Saban, but I don’t think he gets very many surprises late in the process.
And having the #1 class in the country for the last ten years it doesn’t hurt you that much.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:28 pm to SoloTiger
right, generally a lot of the elite guys don't commit until late in the process with a ceremony of some sort. Have to have something to put on ESPN at these all star games and on signing days.
Like has been said, you just have to process a couple or few out of your class to make room if necessary. It has become an ugly business but it is what it is.
Like has been said, you just have to process a couple or few out of your class to make room if necessary. It has become an ugly business but it is what it is.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:29 pm to Rohan Gravy
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If I’m not mistaken, we will actually turn down some very good in state players this year.
in the end, we will wind up with the best we can get signed regardless of where they come from
it has already happened with a couple recievers we had committed in this class that got bumped as better ones got on board
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:33 pm to Rohan Gravy
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We’ve lost several in state kids in the past.
No joke. You said guys have "flipped" to Alabama late, though. Either you don't know what "flip" means or you're being overly dramatic.
quote:
The Sopsher guy comes to mind.
Not a flip.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:35 pm to LSU Patrick
Personally, I wish the NCAA would move back signing day and make a rule that commitments couldn't be taken or given until after the senior season and high school playoffs. That the classes are dam near full even before these guys senior season is a bit crazy. Lot of late bloomers and under the radar guys out there still yet to make their mark or get notice. It is what it is I suppose and you got to play by the way things are and not the way you wish or think they should be.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:50 pm to whitefoot
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No joke. You said guys have "flipped" to Alabama late, though. Either you don't know what "flip" means or you're being overly dramatic.
I’m an LSU fan.
That’s the definition of overly dramatic.
Ok...take the word flip out of the conversation.
I think recruiting an in state prospect (from Louisiana) for several years (not 6 months or one year)...
That’s a huge loss in time and money.
That’s my point.
And I believe a guy like Sopsher knew he wasn’t coming to LSU.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:09 pm to Rohan Gravy
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I think recruiting an in state prospect (from Louisiana) for several years (not 6 months or one year)...
That’s a huge loss in time and money.
But this is pretty much the nature of recruiting. The coaches develop relationships with most of the guys (both in state and out of state) for years. I don't think it's a coincidence that in Orgeron's third full recruiting cycle we're starting to pull guys from all over the country. He's probably been working to develop those relationships since he was hired.
You can't just not recruit guys who might be a tough pull. If the coaches gave up on recruiting kids whenever there's some adversity, then we're going to end up with very mediocre classes.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:23 pm to whitefoot
I think we are agreeing with each other.
I love what Coach O is doing.
I think we are on the brink of bringing in top 5 classes for the next several years.
This season it begins with beating Texas.
Then at the very least being competitive with Bama.
We need to beat bama (no secret)
I love what Coach O is doing.
I think we are on the brink of bringing in top 5 classes for the next several years.
This season it begins with beating Texas.
Then at the very least being competitive with Bama.
We need to beat bama (no secret)
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:51 pm to Rohan Gravy
I think O has been working recruiting very well this year, the difference being he's taking D lineman maybe a little lower rated/close to equal of the 3 in state guys that we really want, and will not be left sitting empty-handed on signing day if we lose a couple of them. Like last year with the cornerback and DT situation, getting burned late, we've taken Jenkins, Gaye, and keeping Berry on board, and even getting E.Taylor, so we don't get killed even if we lose 2 of Roy, Guillory, or J. Lee.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:20 pm to SoloTiger
I hope you understand the accuracy of my post after the addition of 2 more DL in 24 hours. The train has left the station, jump on board while you can. If you are a Tiger , be a damn Tiger. Declare yourself so we can get some unexpected out of state five stars from a position of strength. Be an LSU guy. Be a character guy. Rep your state. We call it dat Boot.
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