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re: O & Meatball have to be held accountable right?
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:08 pm to ROPO
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:08 pm to ROPO
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What did O do wrong? Please tell me what you wanted him to do? He recruited four, 4 star DLineman to the very end and they all decided to go elsewhere.
This is still continuing the trend of finishing 2nd for recruits in areas of need going back to guys like Marvin Wilson. It’s indefensible.
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:08 pm to Magician2
Hopefully Meatball is gone. Preferably O with him but that's not happening. The dline is going to be horrible after next season. Calling it now. Regardless of who they get in next class. You can't strike out 2-3 years in a row without strong developmental depth and expect them to be good. We're going struggle until at least 2021. Might be okay this upcoming season but that's totally on if we have any injuries or not.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:08 pm to ROPO
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What did O do wrong?
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He recruited four, 4 star DLineman to the very end
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they all decided to go elsewhere
Answered your own question
The best recruiter in the business and the best DL coach in the business has been missing big time on the DL recruits. Big area of need and his specialty
Getting 4/5 star RBs and DBs isn't gonna win a NC.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:09 pm to stephendomalley
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guys, after you see how last year's class plays out then you can start talking. of course you might wait because it already looks killer for next year. it's disappointing, but that's the way it is. btw, if we hadn't have gotten Ika, I might've half-heartedly joined in the chorus.
Not to sound negative but I don’t believe in “wait for next year” schtick. The coaches are paid a lot of money to produce and to produce consistently. If we want to see LSU as a contender we have to dominate positional needs and the lines EVERY single year. Not, “well next year is going to be killer” that’s just a weak mindset and shows complacency
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:10 pm to ROPO
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What did O do wrong? Please tell me what you wanted him to do? He recruited four, 4 star DLineman to the very end and they all decided to go elsewhere.
Other position coaches don’t seem to be having this problem. How are they able to get these top recruits but meatball and O can’t get theirs?
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:10 pm to ROPO
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What did O do wrong?
Sign 2 projects at DL out of 3 possible players.
We needed at least 5 studs on the DL especially considering our depth for the 2020 season.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:11 pm to broadcaster
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How could you make a kid go somewhere they didn’t want to go!
Recruiting...you obviously don't follow it. That's the entire point of recruiting selling something to get the recruit. O and Meatball are poor salesman. It should be an easy sell considering how much we struggle here every year on a great defense.
LSU use to be called DLU. Does anyone remember that moniker? How times have changed. Boy, I hope that never happens to DBU here.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:12 pm to ROPO
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What did O do wrong? Please tell me what you wanted him to do? He recruited four, 4 star DLineman to the very end and they all decided to go elsewhere.
I agree, Coach O gave it his best effort and at the end of the day that's all that matters!
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:12 pm to deuce985
The only thing you can blame O for is hiring Meatball in the first place.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:12 pm to c on z
Meatball=Brick
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:13 pm to Magician2
Agree 100%! Meatball has to go and we need to get someone that these recruits want to play for that they trust!
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:13 pm to CP3forMVP
Like all his other 6ft. in the grave buddies/mentors shitty coaching hires right?
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:13 pm to Jester
Nobody hates LSU better than LSU hates LSU.......
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:15 pm to ROPO
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What did O do wrong? Please tell me what you wanted him to do? He recruited four, 4 star DLineman to the very end and they all decided to go elsewhere.
Given the need on the DL, probably should have recruited more than four if he wasn’t certain he was getting any of those.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:16 pm to broadcaster
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How could you make a kid go somewhere they didn’t want to go!
Isn't that what the recruiter is supposed to do? Convince the guy?
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:18 pm to stephendomalley
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guys, after you see how last year's class plays out then you can start talking. of course you might wait because it already looks killer for next year.
it's disappointing, but that's the way it is.
btw, if we hadn't have gotten Ika, I might've half-heartedly joined in the chorus.
The reasons in favor of O getting the permanent HC gig were minimal, at best. But, the ONE big positive in his favor was his history of success recruiting and developing defensive linemen. The thought when O was hired was that LSU HAD to get back to where it used to be along the LOS in order to be a championship level team again and if nothing else, O could get them there. In particular, to defeat Alabama. In fact, Orgeron himself has CONSTANTLY said as much, including after LSU was once again dominated by Alabama along the LOS.
O is now 3 recruiting classes in and the DL haul appears to be minimal
When you (Orgeron) sell the fact that LSU getting better along the LOS s the #1 objective necessary to achieve in order to be a great team, then fail to meet that objective, I think its reasonable to question the HC
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:18 pm to LSU Bayou Jim
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Nobody hates LSU better than LSU hates LSU.......
Yeah. frick legitimate criticism
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:19 pm to deuce985
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ow it. That's the entire point of recruiting selling something to get the recruit. O and Meatball are poor salesman
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:20 pm to Jester
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Basically, you're saying results don't matter as long as he tried.
And others are saying it doesn't matter that he tried. Bitch all you want, but it will change nothing. The guy can't do more than try his best to convince a kid to sign with LSU.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:20 pm to bencoleman
Ben you’re a staunch O supporter would you say meatball has to go? I mean there has to be some accountability.
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