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re: NOLA Nifty 50 2016

Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61865 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

top defense in the state


Byrd

So what did he do against them? Pretty good right? That was the fastest defense I've seen in a decade.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10432 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

it could have been worse. Like about the player(s) that shouldn't have.


Good point! Let's avoid that
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13315 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:57 pm to
Tre Turner and I think he decommitted. Best pure RB instate in the class IMO. Not elite IMO but a good, solid RB that can fit in here. Kind of Terrance Magee like to me. Probably not the athlete Magee is but same type of runner. Kind of sneaky good and better than he looks.

Also think RB shouldn't be a priority position but if there is one we like a lot then we should go balls out and try to land him. Similar to the Ryan Green recruitment in 13 before Fournette. He was the back Frank wanted in that class and the only one he would've taken. Find one or two guys like him that Frank knuckles down on and tries to get and if we miss then wait until 17 to bring in a couple. Too many needs and big time prospects at other positions to waste a number. We might need that spot for a LB, DL or OL.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5783 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Tre Turner and I think he decommitted.

He decommitted from State. Kind of surprised me to be honest. Seems like a good fit considering he likes baseball too.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Byrd

So what did he do against them? Pretty good right? That was the fastest defense I've seen in a decade.



No doubt Byrd's defense was a top defense. I thought about Byrd when I posted my last post. Zachary was more productive against Byrd. Might be "apples to oranges" when you talk about specific match ups. Scott in particular went 14 of 22 for 171 1 TD 1 Int with 16 carries for 90 yds 1 TD against them. Against Byrd, ZHS discovered who it really was, waiting till the 4th qtr to start throwing the ball, and pulling within three of Acadiana 24-21.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 6:28 pm
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

He decommitted from State. Kind of surprised me to be honest. Seems like a good fit considering he likes baseball too.



Tre Turner has ridiculous speed to go along with good size. Im told he's a baseball prospect too.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 5:51 pm to
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This list is a college prospect list not a top high school player list. I love LSJ's game, but it's not fair to anyone if I put him on this list. Each guy ahead of him on this list will obtain bigger offers than him. Sad but true.

Jay Tyler at Newman had zero offers on the table until Stanford came in late January to pull the trigger as a slot receiver. His numbers dwarfed Lindsey's best year. I've been fighting with colleges about LSJ longer than anyone so I take it personal when you act as if him not being on my list is a disservice to the kid. When someone calls as many schools as I have for the kid then they can complain.


@InTheDetails - I respect your passion, and there is no doubt that you are a good guy. But you (NOLA) are the author of the list. Surely you didn't publish the article here expecting everyone to agree with it. Surely you knew that much discussion was going to be about players that were not listed. You shouldn't be offended at all.

As the author of the list (NOLA), its clear that when you click on the links, theres nothing on Nola sites that explains what Nifty-50 means. All it says is:

"The class of 2016 is shaping up to be one of the most memorable in the state's history. There is a plethora of talent at most of the valued positions making for an extensive pool of talent for colleges to choose from."

The site says nothing about the "size of offers". The inference is, that you compiled a list of the 50 best players in the state, not the "50 players that will get the 'best' offers".

I'm sure LSJ would appreciate all the calls that you've made. But aren't you working against those efforts, if you're making calls for him on one hand, but sending message through your rankings that he didn't quite make the cut? Aren't the schools you're calling reading NOLA too?

You're free to make your list based on any criteria you choose. But if in actual publication, you don't clarify what you meant, then no one knows. Maybe it should read NOLAs Top Offer List, instead of "Nifty-50".

Jay Tyler at 5'6 - 5'7 was in fact one of the most dynamic players to come through in years. The fact that colleges might shy on him, didn't change the fact that he was a bona fide FBS prospect. It would have been nice to have seen the local papers take the same chance on Jay Tyler as Stanford did.

This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 6:30 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20334 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:07 pm to
Yeah but who recruits based off of media perception? No one, so who cares...
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25382 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

top defense in the state


Byrd


That's laughable.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Yeah but who recruits based off of media perception? No one, so who cares...



True.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

quote:
top defense in the state


Byrd


That's laughable.



They both (Byrd and Acadiana) were pretty dang good. But lets save that for another thread. lol!
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25382 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

They both (Byrd and Acadiana) were pretty dang good. But lets save that for another thread. lol!


I was gonna say Neville or Mandeville lol legit defenses. It's debatable, not laughable. That was poor wording.

On to the topic, another name not on the list that possibly could be is Parker Orgeron. He is pretty damn good.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

I was gonna say Neville or Mandeville lol legit defenses. It's debatable, not laughable. That was poor wording.

On to the topic, another name not on the list that possibly could be is Parker Orgeron. He is pretty damn good.


Just watched his film. He's good. Very athletic. Nasty one handed grab at 1:32.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22104 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

Ivy League caliber student.


Funny you should say that. I checked his twitter this afternoon and he posted a pic of a recruiting letter from Yale!
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Funny you should say that. I checked his twitter this afternoon and he posted a pic of a recruiting letter from Yale!


His coach reports that he was visited in January by Tulane, Mississippi State, La. Tech, ULM, ULL, USM. Last spring Arizona State. Waiting on someone to pull the trigger. Says its not a matter of "if" but "when". Fact is 5'11 QBs arent popular. Wait on some one to be the first to pull the trigger.

Kid is Said to be really interested in the football/academic environments of Stanford, Purdue, Cal, Northwestern (IL), Duke, and possible Ivy leagues.

This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 7:00 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22104 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Thank you for turning this thread about the Nifty 50 into one entirely about a player who didn't make it.


Your welcome! Any time!

If you did read through this you found out that the Nifty 50 is not the 50 best in the state but just a regurgitation of lists with little to no actual scouting done by the authors...
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22104 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Kid is Said to be really interested in the football/academic environments of Stanford, Purdue, Cal, Northwestern (IL), Duke, and possible Ivy leagues.


Not surprising... dad is a lawyer.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7028 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:19 pm to
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theres nothing on Nola sites that explains what Nifty-50 means


I guess Jimmy needs to put the disclaimer in there, but really, I don't know anyone putting out lists of impact HS players in the offseason. This time of year is all about major next level athletes.

For instance, I think Devon Benn will be one of the best running backs in the state this year and will be one of the fastest/shiftiest you could have seen recently in the state. I don't think he projects much higher than mid-major though because of size. He probably doesn't make this list even though he will be an impact player at the state level.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61865 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:33 pm to
Did you actually see them play live? If so you wouldn't think it was laughable at all. Their only loss was on the road at WM. WM scored 1 offensive TD on a 30 yard run or so by the fullback. Other than that, I believe they held WM to 100 yards or less. Acadiana lost 4 games and gave up 16.6 points per game. They were hot at the end and won it all. Doesn't mean they were some all time great defense. Byrd gave up 11.7 ppg and actually won more games than Acadiana.

ETA I watched Neville several times. Byrd was much better.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 7:36 pm
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

I guess Jimmy needs to put the disclaimer in there,


I don't know about a disclaimer. Honestly, I'm just chiming in on when people start talking particulars, and seem to have the facts a little skewed.
But thats what these forums are about. A good debate
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