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re: Nice article on LSU baseball signee

Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Books
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:16 am to
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How does the NCAA allow us to offer larger amounts of scholarship money to OOS kids with all of the new scholarship regulations in baseball?

saved money left over from not having to pay as much to instate kids bc of TOPS
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Is the TOPS program an academic scholarship that covers part of an athlete's dues that otherwise wouldn't be covered by his/her athletic scholarship?
it covers dues that the athletic ship would have had to cover
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 10:17 am
Posted by tygerfan11
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:27 am to
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Books


Thanks!
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:35 pm to
Good lord tards

In State kids are able to use the lottery academic scholarships instead of using more of the 11.7 baseball scholarships, hence (LSU, Georgia and Tennesee) can offer much more money to out of state kids, because they do not have to spend as much money on the in state kids. This obviously helps these schools, but look at Tennesee they blow cock and they have this advantage.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:39 pm to
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In State kids are able to use the lottery academic scholarships instead of using more of the 11.7 baseball scholarships


I'm pretty sure TOPS isn't funded through the lottery, the other states' versions may be, but I don't think Louisiana's is.

And it's really no more of an advantage than the public schools in Cali have over the private schools. Most of the public schools out there are dirt cheap to go to. That's one of the reasons that USC and the West Coast Conference are sliding in prominence and the Big West with Irvine and Fullerton are on the rise. (Although Fullerton has been good for a while)
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 12:59 am to
Bump

love the hypocrites commenting.

Does anyone really blame the kid for going to the team that won the National Title last year?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 6:41 am to
I think the advantage now, with the minimum scholarship requirements (maybe Project or Adam can comment on the exact rule), will be with in state players as opposed to being able to offer more scholarship money to an out of state kid.

I don't remember the exact figures, but X number of players on your 35 man roster must receive Y% of a scholarship. So even in state kids will be receiving money, meaning you can't just save all of the 11.7 to give full scholarships to out of state players...like was previously mentioned in the comments section below that article.

I would also like to see a breakdown of how many guys on the team actually receive TOPS, because it isn't just automatic like many of you tards (MSU/Polk whiners) think.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 6:51 am to
They still have to academically qualify for the scholarship. In GA to get hope you have to have a 3.0 unweighted. I'm pretty sure LA is the same. They don't just say, "hey take this geaux tigers!".
This post was edited on 2/25/10 at 6:53 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 6:57 am to
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I don't remember the exact figures, but X number of players on your 35 man roster must receive Y% of a scholarship.

It was 30 players last season, but I believe it's 27 players now. And the percentage is either 25 or 33.

Let's say that it's 33. That means that right away, 9 schollies are used up and you have 2.7 left to distribute. That's where the state sponsored merit scholarships come in.

What's helping a lot of teams now is the amount of two sport players. Toby Gerhart, Golden Tate, Chad Jones, Eric Decker, and a whole host of other kids were playing football and baseball last season, and more are still doing it this season. That allows for them to be one of those non-aid players for baseball. So most teams are effectively getting a 'walk-on' starter and can use that extra scholarship money to deepen the team.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:46 am to
Yes, Project is spot on. To add simply if not already spoken of a player may receive TOPS if he has a minimum 3.0 GPA and from in state. As you were saying though LSU can't just use the 11.7 scholarships solely for out of state players it must be spread out across the board. TOPS does partially help instate kids if they qualify.
Posted by jobare
Lowzyana
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 10:12 am to
Minimum of 20 on the ACT to qualify for TOPS also.
Posted by tygerfan11
Member since Jun 2008
804 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:23 am to
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ProjectP2294


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Adam4848


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Books


Thanks for clearing that up for me. I tried to do some research on it but couldn't find out exactly how the program worked within the 11.7 scholarships that are given out for baseball. But now I understand it.

I find the comments with that article hilarious. Can any logical person really blame the kid for leaving the state to play for LSU? I mean, we're the defending National Champions and a program that has been a national power since the kid has been alive. Seems like an easy decision to me.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30474 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:52 am to
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Minimum of 20 on the ACT to qualify for TOPS also.


Back when I received it I think you also had to graduate in the top 10% of your high school class. And they also have to maintain a minimum GPA in college to keep it, and it is certainly much higher than the NCAA requirement.
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