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Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:05 am to CT3
I know y’all will bring it on for sayin this, but is he so wrong to think maybe his future will be brighter over the next 3 years at MSU than LSU? They just hired an up and coming new HC whose biggest perceived weakness was recruiting the south. Looks like he’s doing well there! We have a HC whose the worst in the SEC, whose on every single hot seat list that exists and his OC is the most unproven OC in the Conference. And when asked about the offense all you ever here is “we’re gonna sling/pass the ball down field a lot this year”. Now tell me based o that why Emory would prefer LSU over MSU?!?! I’m a Tiger fan all day, but some of y’all keep the fricking blinders on!
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:32 am to Andychapman13
State has 2 quality RB’s right now (Jr. Aeris Williams 1,000 yard rusher & So. Kylin Hill who is very good)
An Emery/Williams/Hill combo would be salty honestly.
An Emery/Williams/Hill combo would be salty honestly.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:34 am to Andychapman13
I do not know the answer to this question, but now many running backs does ME have in the pros?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:48 am to kennymorgan
I don’t know, but all of ours except for Guice’s Jr season played under Miles’ Guard heavy O-Line in which we were a 65/35 run offense. That’s why we kept getting the top RB recruits. Combine a HC whose future is uncertain, doesn’t understand offense on the highest level, an OC whose unproven and wants a pass heavy offense we honestly don’t have nearly as much to offer a RB as we did 2 years ago.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 10:50 am to Andychapman13
Moo State Goin to the ship!
Posted on 7/14/18 at 1:12 pm to LSU Patrick
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Moo State Goin to the ship!
Lmao! I didn’t say all that! Just pointed out that the future, however mediocre it may end up being, is far more stable at Moo St than at LSU!
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 4:35 pm to Andychapman13
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We have a HC whose the worst in the SEC
That worst coach in the SEC had the fourth best record in the confrence last year.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:39 pm to DlineU
Oh you kids. Y’all don’t remember losing recruits like Quinton Culberson, Rory Johnson and Anthony Dixon to Moo State.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 2:26 am to Suntiger
We've lost numerous recuits to State over the years.Deljaun Robison,Quinton Culberson,Derek Pegues,Anthony Dixon,Jerious Norwood,Donte Walker,Derek Sherrod,Josh Boyd,Chris Jones,Fletcher Cox,Leo Lewis,Willie Gay,Gabe Jackson,Quay Evans,Dak,Keytaon Thompson,Jeffery Simmons,Jamal Peters,Richie Brown,Georquarius Spivey,and you can make a case for Devonta Jason.We just don't get many kids out of Mississippi.
We're a missed field goal away from losing 3 of 4 to State and were blew off the field last year.That needs to change!
We're a missed field goal away from losing 3 of 4 to State and were blew off the field last year.That needs to change!
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 2:27 am
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:59 am to Andychapman13
You are talking as if Mississippi State is 2008 Clemson or something. Most elite football players are expecting to play somewhere for 3-4 years, compete for championships, have some fun, and get a high draft pick. LSU is still the better opportunity for all of those things. If Emery picks MSU, it won't be because of perceived stability or that MSU beat LSU a couple of times, once under different coaches at both programs.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 7:14 am
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:14 am to airfernando
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that's mostly pointless. With all that in mind, the question would be did all those carries make them higher picks? Probably not. Gurley could have carried half the #, still been the same pick, and had a longer, healthier career.
No you obviously didn't understand what I was saying. Having wear and tear on your body isn't that huge of a problem. Guys in the past like Steven Jackson, Tony Dorsett, Ladainian Tomlinson, Marcus Allen, Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson, etc, ran the ball a shite ton in college, got drafted in the first round, and had long successful pro careers. The backs I mentioned in the post you replied to also got the ball a hell of a lot and became first round picks.
Honestly I think the wear and tear thing is really up to the player's body makeup.
I do believe that using guys like Emery in a lot of different ways will maximize their potential. Mccaffrey doesn't go first round based in his rushing alone. It's his return ability and receiving ability, athleticism and intelligence, that gave him that nod. Pure raw talent and a varied football skillset.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/15/18 at 2:21 pm to Andychapman13
Who's got a better track record of sending superstar running backs to the League?
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:06 pm to LSU Patrick
That won’t happen this year. They return almost everyone including a good qb. Stacked on the Dline as well. I believe Moorehead may be even better than Mullen. Dude has won a lot as a HC at a small program and as OC at PSU. Hate to say it but State is looking good so far. Just look at how they are recruiting.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:33 pm to ThEGrEat 7
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Who's got a better track record of sending superstar running backs to the League?
I answered that above.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 5:57 pm to Datbayoubengal
You’ve gotten downvotes because you said that college carries don’t affect nfl longevity. That somehow if a guy has a shite ton of carries in college he could still have a long and productive career in the nfl and that there is no data to support anything but that. And you are right. That is the biggest overblown myth in the history of football I think.
The stats pretty much show that on average, guys who get more carries in college are better running backs. And wouldn’t you know it? They get more carries in the nfl too and hang around a while because they are good football players.
The stats pretty much show that on average, guys who get more carries in college are better running backs. And wouldn’t you know it? They get more carries in the nfl too and hang around a while because they are good football players.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:16 pm to Andychapman13
Which is why LSU is way more stable for his future during and after his career is over
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:03 am to Fratigerguy
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You’ve gotten downvotes because you said that college carries don’t affect nfl longevity. That somehow if a guy has a shite ton of carries in college he could still have a long and productive career in the nfl and that there is no data to support anything but that. And you are right. That is the biggest overblown myth in the history of football I think
No I've gotten downvoted for a couple reasons
1. For a few years now a lot of LSU fans on this site have gotten it in their head that guys would want to come here because they would be better splitting carries to get less wear and tear and have a longer NFL career (nothing to support that claim). That's the main reason why we don't get top tier guys out of state geniuses. We aren't Bama and top out of state RBs aren't just wanting to wait their turn here.
2. Because I'm not a homer and can see legit football reasoning behind Emery wanting to go to Mississippi St. The HC has a history of utilizing RBs in a number of ways and his lead RB gets a lot of play over the others. Plus he's actually seen that offense before and knows it will be successful.
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The stats pretty much show that on average, guys who get more carries in college are better running backs. And wouldn’t you know it? They get more carries in the nfl too and hang around a while because they are good football players.
Yeah it's crazy people think the number of carries or touches is some giant weakness.
I'll give them even more names;
Emmitt Smith had almost 23 carries per game at Florida in a pass heavy offense (56 receptions over career). Goes to the NFL, averages 19.5 carries per game for 15 years, adding receptions brings his total touches to almost 23 a game in the NFL for 15 years.
Marshall Faulk had 22 carries per game in college with another 82 receptions. If you remove his final NFL year wear he only carried the ball 65 times in 16 games, in his first 11 NFL years he carried the ball 17 times per game and with his crazy receiving ability, he averaged 21 touches per game for 11 years.
Thurman Thomas carried the ball 21 times per game over FOUR years in college, also haveing 82 receptions. Over his first 10 years in the NFL, he averaged 17.6 carries per game and with his receptions added, just over 20 touches per game.
Anyway, I want Emery bad and like I've said so many times, he'd form a dangerous 1-2 punch with Davis, but I'm not going to sit here like some of these guys and believe that is a better situation for him.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:02 am to TheHat7
We're not beating State this year,unless they get a rash of injuries,or Moorhead is a big downgrade from Mullen.What they did to us last year was no fluke.That team returns 9 on defense and 9 on offense who took part in that slaughter.It also doesn't help we get them a week after playing one of the two best teams in the SEC this year and State will be coming off a bye. 2019 will be a different story.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 5:51 am to ifyouonlyknew
It should be a very competitive game now that we should have depth to rotate people in on defense unlike a year ago. Plus, they played off the emotion of the crowd most of the night. Despite them having everyone back, I like our chances in Death Valley.
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