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re: Maurice Hampton

Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73626 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:24 pm to
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Do you not see that signing him and him going to MLB is much costlier to the football team than the baseball team?


That rings a little hollow when we're prepared to give a scholarship to a guy with no discernible talent beyond being a male relative.

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And from the looks of it, if it weren't for football he wouldn't even be going to college.
Based on what?
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
20351 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:30 pm to
I have no clue why he dropped so far. This last update is primarily about senior film and the all-star events. He won Mr. Football for his class division in TN. He also was selected and participated in Under Armour all star events.

For the people mentioning he may have dropped due to his MLB projections, Jerrion Ealy is a higher rated MLB prospect and more likely to go that direction, he moved up their rankings.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:52 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

That rings a little hollow when we're prepared to give a scholarship to a guy with no discernible talent beyond being a male relative.

Haha. Touche
quote:

Based on what?

Based on my belief that he wouldn't be interested in going to college if all he was getting was a baseball scholarship.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48389 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:35 pm to
Couldn’t he still sign with the baseball program even without playing football here?

I think that’s the point whitefoot is trying to make.
Or I may be wrong. This is getting confusing.

What if we had a chance at getting a good OL/DL?
Would we still be signing hm?
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73626 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:41 pm to
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Couldn’t he still sign with the baseball program even without playing football here?


Yes, but that's not what's happening. He's signing somewhere to play football and baseball. If it's not here, it will be one of our SEC competitors that we play every year.

Him going pro is not nearly the lock (a few) people are trying to make it out to be (not necessarily anyone in this thread). He's currently rated as a low 1st, early 2nd rounder. Depending on his asking $ ask is, the bonus pool may not be there to buy him out of his football commitment.

We don't know the bonus pool numbers or the slot amounts for each pick yet.
Posted by Noproblemicantsolve
Member since Aug 2018
413 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:43 pm to
Hampton stated that he wanted to wait until February so he could with the rest of his high school teammates.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61297 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:46 pm to
I can’t speak for his talent as a DB, but unless he’s a transcendent talent, it’s gonna be hard for him to turn down low first, early second money. Especially if the grades rumors are true.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73626 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:49 pm to
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it’s gonna be hard for him to turn down low first, early second money


This statement is full of nothing considering we don't know what kind of money he's looking for or what the slot numbers for the draft yet.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19945 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:53 pm to
This is so huge for the baseball team. Coach PM only has a few scholarships to spread thinly. To get a player like Hampton without using any part of a scholarship is just such a big deal for that team. Even if Coach O were inclined to withdraw the scholarship from a football perspective (risk vs reward), that equation is so very different pn the baseball side.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61297 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:56 pm to
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This statement is full of nothing considering we don't know what kind of money he's looking for or what the slot numbers for the draft yet.


I mean, you have a general range, right? It’s not gonna be 30k or something
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
9219 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:11 pm to
The film I saw on this kid is impressive at WR/DB. He's quite an athlete.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34177 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:59 am to
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Huge risk to go pro in baseball. I wonder if that is the reason.

I have a baseball agent in my family, he doesn't think Hampton gets drafted anywhere near as high as this board does
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73626 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:11 am to
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I have a baseball agent in my family, he doesn't think Hampton gets drafted anywhere near as high as this board does


The people on this board won't listen to that. Most of them prefer to stay woefully ignorant to the way the MLB draft works.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:53 am to
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The people on this board won't listen to that. Most of them prefer to stay woefully ignorant to the way the MLB draft works.

Well set us straight, man. I asked you specifically what you thought about Hampton's MLB draft stock in the fall and I think you said something like it was too early to know and that this spring would be when that kind of stuff started falling into place, but based on talent and potential he could be a first rounder. The only mock draft I've seen with him has him going at the end of the second round.

I loosely follow the baseball recruiting thread during the MLB draft, but I really have no idea how draft position usually relates to leaving/staying decisions. I thought I read last summer with that that it was rare for a 1st rounder not to sign with MLB, so if he's a potential first round talent doesn't that increase the risk he doesn't come here?

Edit: and we also get messages like this from other baseball guys who say he's probably not coming. I'm not sure why you want to be all condescending when there are differing opinions from actual baseball guys...LINK
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:18 am to
quote:

he doesn't think Hampton gets drafted anywhere near as high as this board does

Where would he need to get drafted to be unlikely to go to MLB?

If I'm reading this correctly, it appears that only 4 players picked in the top 10 rounds did not sign last year.
LINK
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23131 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:23 am to
Hampton is signing with LSU on feb 3 and has openly said it’s gonna take some major cash to lure him to mlb
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73626 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:23 am to
Any mock draft that's actually out right now should just be disregarded. They're clickbait only.

Any rankings out right now should be taken with a grain of salt. We're still 6 months out from the actual draft.

As you get closer to the draft, the rankings will reflect talent, the (educated) mock drafts will build in signability.

The things we don't know at this time:
-Slot values
-bonus pools
-Hampton's ask

Hampton's rawness as a baseball player will drop him. Buying a kid out of a college commitment can raise the price for some prospects. Typically buying a kid out of a football commitment costs even more. Him signing a football LOI locks in that leverage to ask for more.

We still would have to learn who actually would pick him and compare his number to their bonus pool and their appetite to exceed that pool, their other draft picks and their asks, and other external factors that aren't apparent right now.

Also, who knows what kind of affect the Kyler Murray situation will have on teams looking to draft two sport athletes.

Anyone claiming anything definitive right now is full of shite. There are far too many unknowns. The biggest unknown is what amount is he looking for. If it's more than $2MM, he's going to have to get drafted by the first half of round 2 or get drafted by a team with a ton of extra picks (and extra pool $) to work with.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73626 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:26 am to
quote:

and we also get messages like this from other baseball guys who say he's probably not coming.


That gets said about every high profile kid every single year. Hell, we have about 8 guys on the baseball team right now that were "never coming to campus."
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:31 am to
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That gets said about every high profile kid every single year. Hell, we have about 8 guys on the baseball team right now that were "never coming to campus."

Gotcha. But, hopefully, you can now see why we, the ignorant masses, are easily swayed when it comes to this. It's not that we don't want to listen...it's that we don't know who to listen to, or what to believe.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:47 am to
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Hampton is signing with LSU on feb 3 and has openly said it’s gonna take some major cash to lure him to mlb


I think letting him sign prior to June and potentially vacating a scholarship is unwise.

I say this because it appears that he's in line to get some major cash in June.
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