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re: Mass Media Negativity doesn't hurt recruiting? Think again....
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:51 am to Chicken
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:51 am to Chicken
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The vocal minority is hurting our image.
I think you underestimate what % of our fanbase is pissed off due to the performance last week.
It definitely isn't the minority
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:52 am to Chicken
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Ignorant posters aren't limited to just free boards...
Agreed, just the poor dumb ones such as myself.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:53 am to Prominentwon
quote:I think it is you that needs perspective. This has been one of the worst weeks in Louisiana sports history...LSU and Saints...8 days of negative events. What do you expect?
Then there's composure and perspective that this site never regained. That's unfortunate.
The site has been around for 10 years. This is normal after a loss. Fortunately, there haven't been too many losses...but the loss last week was the biggest loss in my lifetime. And by the way it happened, I can see why many people are having a hard time moving on.
Things will calm down soon...
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:55 am to Prominentwon
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Like I said, it's a shame that cooler heads haven't prevailed and perspective and logic hasn't (or will never) make a return.
Blowing it out of proportion a bit?
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:55 am to Chicken
It's not the site's fault. It's the result of having an open forum for discussion. And without doubt:
quote:There isn't a clear solution that wouldn't have some negative effect.
we have deleted the shite out of threads in the last week. Those BS fight threads never festered on here...some jerkoff started a blog to post that story. I have received a dozen emails linking me to that blog. We have also suspended a ton of users. That is damage control.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:57 am to Prominentwon
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I don't. But it's been a week. Cooling off shouldn't take that long. Like I said, it's a shame that cooler heads haven't prevailed and perspective and logic hasn't (or will never) make a return.
I agree.
This coaching staff has done a top 5 job in the country for the last 5 years. 99% of the schools in the country would trade their results in the last 5 years for ours. It's time to put the past behind and move forward. Took me about 6 days to say that
As noted before, TD.com shouldn't be singled out, but the success of it and the mass readership of it makes it one of the most accessible and recognized media source that displays fan bases sentiment about their team. And I do believe that impressionable teenagers can be turned off by a mass out pour of negativity from a fan base. Right or wrong.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:58 am to Linkovich
If you want non stop positive coverage then go to LSUsports.net.
Go look at Tidefans.com after Nov 5th, go look at UNC message board after their 30 point loss in bball this weekend. Everyone has negative posts.
TD has much higher volume and maybe we are a victim of this sites success.
Stop blaming message boards for these kids decisions. You are no better than the folks looking for the pregame fight conspiracies. Everyone is looking for an answer to this sudden downward trend and they dont need to look any further than what happened on the playing field.
In the end that is the most impactful thing that has happened to recruits in the last week.
Go look at Tidefans.com after Nov 5th, go look at UNC message board after their 30 point loss in bball this weekend. Everyone has negative posts.
TD has much higher volume and maybe we are a victim of this sites success.
Stop blaming message boards for these kids decisions. You are no better than the folks looking for the pregame fight conspiracies. Everyone is looking for an answer to this sudden downward trend and they dont need to look any further than what happened on the playing field.
In the end that is the most impactful thing that has happened to recruits in the last week.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:58 am to Chicken
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I think it is you that needs perspective.
When it comes to the game, I've been past that for 5-6 days now.
It's time to move on and look forward to the '12 season. The Sr's and early draftees have played their last game and that's that.
Maybe I'm just better at not dwelling on such things like what went down last week than alot of other people.
Everything that needed to be said about what happened has been said. It's just regurgitated at a high level considering the amount of registered users you have. Hopefully the baseball season has a decent year and it'll help us all move past all of this.
I'd have to say that this is a record meltdown for the site and it was justified. I just hope it doesn't run into August. THAT won't be justified.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:58 am to Linkovich
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Blowing it out of proportion a bit?
C'mon man.
You read the rant
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:59 am to USMCTiger03
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It's the result of having an open forum for discussion.
So it has nothing to do with what is happening on the field or the sidelines? Ok...
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:59 am to LSUAfro
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TD.com shouldn't be singled out,
That's fair and I changed the title.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:59 am to Prominentwon
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Prominentwon
Couldnt have said it any better. The fan base will eventually become the demise of this program. When you want to fire a coach who went 13-1 and lost the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, no one will want to play here or coach here.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:00 am to Prominentwon
quote:why even single out message boards? Even articles at national and local news sites have a comments section...as does YouTube and Twitter...It is an internet thing.
What do you want me to title it? I changed it. Apologies.
And then you have radio callers...
Maybe you should just make it "Negativity doesn't hurt recruiting? Think again..."
Because you act as if there is just one source of negativity for LSU fans...
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:00 am to Prominentwon
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You read the rant
Barely, and I thought you were referencing the RB.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:02 am to diehardfan
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So it has nothing to do with what is happening on the field or the sidelines? Ok...
You are absolutely missing the point of this entire thread.
You are actually part of the problem. You've done nothing in this thread but point fingers and hoping everyone else hops on the "I hate Les Miles" bandwagon.
You really think no one saw the game? You don't think anyone here didn't see the terrible mistakes made in the game? We all saw it. No shite. But get real. Move on. Nothing is going to change. What are you going to change by sitting here and telling everyone something we already know? Nothing. '12 is going to be a good season. If you don't think the offense is going to change with a pocket passer, then, that's a you problem. Don't watch the games if you seriously have this big of a chip on your shoulder.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:08 am to Linkovich
I also dont think you can overlook the positives that come from this message board.
Look at TD on Sundays when our former tigers are making plays in the NFL or on the basketball court or baseball field. There is not a more loyal fanbase that shows their school pride thank LSU. Look at all of the positive articles on the Tigers or Les Miles this year. Tell me those have helped recruiting and views of our fanbase.
The world we live in today is much different from a communication perspective. People dont like to read marketing materials. They like to express their opinions whether good or bad.
Look at TD on Sundays when our former tigers are making plays in the NFL or on the basketball court or baseball field. There is not a more loyal fanbase that shows their school pride thank LSU. Look at all of the positive articles on the Tigers or Les Miles this year. Tell me those have helped recruiting and views of our fanbase.
The world we live in today is much different from a communication perspective. People dont like to read marketing materials. They like to express their opinions whether good or bad.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:09 am to lsuhunt555
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Couldnt have said it any better. The fan base will eventually become the demise of this program. When you want to fire a coach who went 13-1 and lost the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, no one will want to play here or coach here.
Seriously? This is blowing it up to an extreme also. Albeit, the opposite side. Do you not see other SEC fan bases? Bama was in shitsville at the time it hired Saban. UGA wants Richt's head and he just won the East. LSU is going to survive even if I have to one arm curl that bitch back over the side of the cliff. Where the hell is the middle ground here?
*Hello, hello? Is there anyone in the middle with me?*
*nothing but shitty echo in return*
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:16 am to diehardfan
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quote:It's the result of having an open forum for discussion.
So it has nothing to do with what is happening on the field or the sidelines? Ok...
Duh...for the purpose of this specific discussion, we're addressing the forum. Regarding your point, the problem is it's something that happened over a week ago and which is made no better by repeating the same outcry over and over again.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:27 am to Prominentwon
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You are absolutely missing the point of this entire thread.
Nope, unfortunately I believe that you are missing the point.
I completely understand the point of your thread. I disagree with your conclusions. No matter what is happening within a major program, media outlets such as radio, tv and internet only amplify what is going on.
The problem isn't the media (message boards, radio shows). The problem is what is happening on the field and on the sidelines.
If you don't like what people are saying, then attack the real problem and not the amplifier.
If you don't like what you hear from the different media outlets, then crawl in a cave and pretend like everything is perfectly fine.
Pretending like nothing is wrong and refusing to address real issues only feeds the problem.
If you want to complain about the noise, fine that is your right. But I will not refrain from pointing out the truth. You don't like it? Keep crying.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:28 am to Prominentwon
There is good and bad fans and there is good and bad that can come from immediate mass communications. I get your point. Use a little discretion before you hit the submit button and realize that it could adversely influence the decisions of some kids, particularly on the recruiting board and particularly when dealing with high school kids.
That being said, most fan bases have a form of internet bulletin board. Ours is just the most popular and well known. In some ways, that bodes well for the passion and enthusiasm of our fan base. If the coaches at LSU have a problem with it, perhaps they should put together a free official bulletin board that is heavily monitored and which they can direct recruits to. In any event, I will stick to TD.com and my freedom of speech.
That being said, most fan bases have a form of internet bulletin board. Ours is just the most popular and well known. In some ways, that bodes well for the passion and enthusiasm of our fan base. If the coaches at LSU have a problem with it, perhaps they should put together a free official bulletin board that is heavily monitored and which they can direct recruits to. In any event, I will stick to TD.com and my freedom of speech.
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