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Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:37 pm to Powerman
He looks like what Brossette could have been. He has a similar build and the same long stride. He's just more physical than Nick. I like it if we can get him.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:39 pm to Powerman
So another initial counter potentially lost on a one-year rental?
Way to go O.
Way to go O.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:42 pm to Geauxgurt
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So another initial counter potentially lost on a one-year rental?
Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
I fail to see how this potential addition could be a bad thing
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:10 pm to Powerman
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
I fail to see how this potential addition could be a bad thing
Because with the recent rules changes, it means you are basically giving up a potential 4-year scholarship availability for a 1-year rental.
Each team gets 25 spots to sign new recruits each year. Before, transfers did not count against those spots. Now they do, so it is like taking one of our scholarships to offer in recruiting player that are in high school or JUCO (2-3 years eligibility left).
LSU lost one last year on a one-year rental at Kicker. They lost 2 more for Fohoko and Giles too, but those guys will hopefully be at LSU more than 1 year. The new DB from Stanford took another one.
If LSU takes this guy, they'll have lost 3 multi-year scholarship potential spots for 3 players that will at best be here one year and are not guaranteed to be better than anyone else currently on the roster.
Think about that.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:17 pm to Geauxgurt
He looks talented but I don’t think he’s going to greatly improve the talent inside your RB room. He looks like the guys we already have. I would much rather keep the scholarship open so we can sign 26 guys next year. Adding another corner was necessary, but I don’t see RB as being a position we absolutely need more bodies at.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:17 pm to Geauxgurt
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4-year scholarship
Hmm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:24 pm to Lakeboy7
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Hmm
I know scholarships are renewed annually and not guaranteed for 4-years, but it is meant more in the fact that the player lost would have eligibility for 4-5 years versus the only one year of these players.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:42 pm to Powerman
He was rated the 142nd RB in the 2014 class. IMO, save the scholarship for a high school prospect.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:44 pm to Geauxgurt
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If LSU takes this guy, they'll have lost 3 multi-year scholarship potential spots for 3 players that will at best be here one year and are not guaranteed to be better than anyone else currently on the roster.
Think about tha
Does it count against next year is the question I have
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:52 pm to Powerman
I think he counts on last year’s group. We still have one spot left. Don’t believe it would affect next year’s group in any way.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:54 pm to Powerman
According to what people more in the know have said, there is no more oversigning like years past. Which is why this would be a good move instead of wasting a spot from this past recruiting cycle.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:55 pm to tigerskin
if it back counts i see no reason how this is a bad thing.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:58 pm to Powerman
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Does it count against next year is the question I have
After signing day, we had 27 potential spots to use for the 2019 recruiting class. While you can't "oversign" as some are saying, you can take more than 25 if you have back-counters and they enroll early.
So effectively, we already lost one of those 2 extra spots, and if we sign this kid, we'd lose the other and only have 25 spots left for next year's class.
So to answer your question, yes it does count against our potential signing class next year in losing an extra spot we didn't use this year that could be used for a 2019 prospect.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:59 pm to tigerskin
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I think he counts on last year’s group. We still have one spot left. Don’t believe it would affect next year’s group in any way.
He would count to this past class. What the other posters are trying to tell you guys is that they could have used the spot in the next class by bringing in an early enrollee. You get 25 signings per year, they could have had 26 by using this spot. What the new rule change stops you from doing is say sign 29 guys knowing 4 won't qualify or that you will grayshirt 4 guys. You can still bring unused signings into the next class via early enrollee.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:02 pm to LuzianaFootball
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According to what people more in the know have said, there is no more oversigning like years past. Which is why this would be a good move instead of wasting a spot from this past recruiting cycle
You still can "over-sign" assuming you have the players early enroll. Once they sign, though, that spot is gone.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:04 pm to 1999
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if it back counts i see no reason how this is a bad thing.
Again, still costs LSU a potential spot for 2019 recruits for a one-year rental. You clearly don't understand how extra spots from this year's class can be used to sign someone in next year's class.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:05 pm to tigerskin
We had two spots left over from ‘18. I don’t know why people are bitching.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:05 pm to 1999
Because it back counts I dont think its bad based on our current situation. The bad is we didnt have it together when it was time to get a 3-4 year back in the last class. However, we cant go back so by all means go get him. Let’s just not pretend it’s “as good” as getting him for 3 years. I’ll be pulling for him if he lands in P and G
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:08 pm to man117
And to expand on what Geauxgurt is saying about grad transfers. Teams now are capped at 100 signings per 4 years. 85 scholarships can be given. So in a perfect world your attrition would be 3.75 players per class. You're going to have some players flunk out after a year, get arrested, transfer, etc.... when you sign 1 year grad transfers, that's basically the same situation from a numbers perspective. You're adding unnecessary attrition. If Orgeron keeps signing 3 grad transfer a year (I don't think he will) we'll be at a point were we don't have 85 scholarship players (I'm not sure if he would be able to give them to walk-ons at that point though).
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 2:12 pm
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