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Tigerbait357
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LSU Gymnastics Recruiting Thread and Information
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Included is all the commits w/ videos of competition and/or training. Updates on commitments performances in JO and elite level competitions. Updates on recruiting prospects and possible visits.


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2020 Commits (4)

Elena Arenas, Georgia Elite
-Former International Elite
Elena Arenas- Bars
Elena Arenas- Vault
Elena Arenas- Beam

Haleigh Bryant, Everest
-JO National Team Member
-Nastia Liukin Cup 2018 AA Winner
Haleigh Bryant- Floor
Haleigh Bryant- Vault
Haleigh Bryant- Beam
Haleigh Bryant- Bars

Olivia Dunne, ENA Paramus
-Senior International Elite
Olivia Dunne- Vault
Olivia Dunne- Bars
Olivia Dunne Training Video

Chase Brock, GTC
- Former elite gymnast
Chase Brock- Floor
Chase Brock- Vault

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2021 Commits (3)

Aleah Finnegan, GAGE
-US Senior National Team Member
Aleah Finnegan- Vault
Aleah Finnegan- Beam
Aleah Finnegan- Floor
Aleah Finnegan- Bars

Tori Tatum, Twin City
-Former US Elite and US National Team Member
Tori Tatum- Bars
Tori Tatum- Vault

Kaytlyn Johnson, Texas Dreams
-Junior Elite Gymnast
Kaytlyn Johnson- Floor
Kaytlyn Johnson- Vault

Other commits beyond those included include two international elites
Annie Beard- 2023
Lilly Lippeatt- 2022
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Tigerbait357
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Some notable Recruiting Prospects:


Selena Harris- 2022

Leane Wong-2021

Sydney Barros (UCLA commit)-2023

Alexis Jeffrey (UCLA commit)- 2021

Eliana Lazzar (Florida commit)- 2021

Konnor McClain
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BunnieGene
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Can you add Nastia Luikin Cup winner where applicable? We’ve had some, and they’ve been such successful Tigers!


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JeffSpartan85
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Can you add the recruiting year to the other prospects please? Thanks for your work on this and valuable info!


cra_cra
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Thanks for the thread 357. A few questions.

1. Which is higher; International Elite or Lvl 10?

2. Difference between JO, Senior, Elite, etc.

3. Are there only a certain amount of people in each?


I'm a swimmer. Our categorization is so much simpler. We have qualifying times for each level... LSC, Zone, Junior, Senior (or just nationals), Olympic Trial, etc.


East Texas Tiger 99
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Please sticky this like the old one wa.


TigerFan112
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Great thread! Thanks 357


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Tigerbait357
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quote:

Thanks for the thread 357. A few questions.

1. Which is higher; International Elite or Lvl 10?

2. Difference between JO, Senior, Elite, etc.

3. Are there only a certain amount of people in each?


1. There are different levels in gymnastics Levels 1 and 2 are non competitive. Levels 3 and up are.

Each level up builds onto skills more so than the level before that. Level 6 kids would be doing higher skills/more difficult than level 5. Each level has specific requirements but I won't get into that

Level 10 is the highest non elite level one can go to. This group is where you see the bulk of your NCAA gymnasts. After level 10, there is another level known as "elite" which is the highest level possible.

This is the level that competes at world championships, international competitions and the olympics. This level is much more difficult than level 10. You are competing some of the most difficult skills in the entire world, and the routines are much longer and have stricter requirements. The judging is much harsher too. In elite, its scored very differently. You are scored based off the difficulty of the routine and the execution of it. So you see a D score and E score. Combined is your overall score. The training regimen is dramatically tougher for elite level kids, as they are training 30 hours a week and need to be home schooled.

To qualify to elite you have to hit a certain score in the all around or two events in a elite qualifier.

2. Now you know the difference between JO and Elite. Senior and junior elites are still elites but you cannot compete as a senior until you turn 16 the year of that elite season. Juniors are not allowed to compete at olympics or world championships.

3. There are way less elites than level 10s. Elite is very difficult to qualify for. Its tough on your body for the training regimen. There are a lot of top level 10 kids who are good enough to try to make elite but they have no aspirations to compete internationally so they stay at level 10.


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Biggmatt78
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Do you think any of the 2019 girls will be able to fill the seniors roles?


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Alexis Jeffrey (UCLA commit)- 2021


TB, may I ask why the door may be open here? She seems pretty set in, and committed to UCLA not too long ago.


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Tigerbait357
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TB, may I ask why the door may be open here? She seems pretty set in, and committed to UCLA not too long ago.



Things can change depending if UCLA shifts gears on who they really hire. I can guarantee the new person will run things much differently than what Mrs. Val did. LSU is still actively recruiting her. LSU did not stop when Kiya Johnson committed to Georgia in 2016 under Danna Durante. Now she is heading to LSU.

That said I would prefer JaFree Scott or Leanne Wong over Jeffrey.


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Tigerbait357
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Do you think any of the 2019 girls will be able to fill the seniors roles?



I think no matter who you bring in, it will be impossible to replace leadership of certain kids and the tangibles Finnegan brought to this program. Her excellence and consistency was a game changer and she Brought a sense of ease to the rest of the team. Less pressure when you have someone like Finnegan right there to pick you up if you mess up.

That said, Kai and Kiya are probably the best overall recruits LSU has had since that monster 2015 class (this years seniors). Ruby was never really a "clean" gymnast and consistent, something NCAA level is all about, so it took her 3 years to find that., though her international experience and high level of difficulty was a bonus for us. Edney was always a big time recruit but her inability to maintain toe point is what has always plagued her and at this level.

I would consider Kiya and Kai to be Edney clones, but with much higher potentials. Reason is they both are much more "technically sound" gymnasts. Their toe points, straight arms (bars) and leaps are all much better than Edney which will allow their scores to climb much higher. This is not a knock on Edney, because she is a superb gymnast and a game changer. Just explaining the reasoning on why I believe there is a lot to be excited about with Kai and Kiya. Kai definitely is someone good enough to be LSU's bars anchor next year.

I fully expect Kiya and Kai to be used immediately on every event. I think the first month or two, they might have a few growing pains but by the end of the years will ultimately be the major strengths of the team next year. Both girls can be 9.9+ on every event, although I am a little more skeptical on kai's beam (it has improved a lot though).

As for the other 2019 girls, Goodrich is a project at this point. She has some serious potential with her tumbling but she has issues she needs to work out with her foot work and leaps.

Caitlin is a very different story. I hope I am wrong but I have had major doubts she will ever contribute to LSU. She has not trained or competed consistently the last 3 years. It shows in her routines. She has serious potential as a bar worker. She is actually pretty good on this event when she was training consistently. Beam has a lot of potential but she has never exhibited confidence as a beam worker which is probably the #1 thing you need on beam.


Biggmatt78
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Oh okay I appreciate the response. Hopefully some of the girls on the team can step up and get better for next season. I’d love to see Ruby get better personally.


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IMO, the sophomore class has to bring it next year. I read that this class only has 4 event titles among them. I know Finnegan & Edney were the main AAs this year (& Myia last year), but they’ve had their opportunities....although Sarah is close to perfection.

Does anyone know if Gunter will be able to contribute anywhere next year? I know she tore her ACL and should be healthy next year.


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If Ruby improves as much this next year as this past year,, I think she will be SPECIAL.
Also, I really thought Edney improved drastically on her weaknesses this year? Hopefully she will continue that improvement!
I look for Ferrer to make a huge move this year!
Also really look for drastic movement by Christina.
Sami will be much more solid also I believe.
With Kirby coming back what can we expect from her?

TB357,,, would you address the thoughts above with your expectations??
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TigerFan112
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Do the girls tend to get a lot better each year after they arrive at LSU? Or are they pretty much at the top of their game when they arrive as freshmen? I mean, I'm sure they grow and improve, but in what way? Do they learn new skills, or just finesse the skills they came in with? I ask this because I wonder if Sarah was always this great, even as a freshman, or if she got better and better each year. Same with all the seniors, really. I don't really remember much about them as freshmen and sophomores, but maybe that's just because the focus was more on the upperclassmen.
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Tigerbait357
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IMO, the sophomore class has to bring it next year. I read that this class only has 4 event titles among them. I know Finnegan & Edney were the main AAs this year (& Myia last year), but they’ve had their opportunities....although Sarah is close to perfection.


Desiderio is a legit beamer, issue is she will never win event titles on beam since she is a lead off. Its unfortunate to say but lead off people will never see the same scores they would get later down the lineup. Same goes for Durante on bars, though she has to clean up that dismount. LSU could be dangerous more so next year if Desiderio gets it together on floor, there is zero reason she shouldn't be an all American on floor.

Campbell was the only sophomore who scored in the high 9.9's last year, the sophomore class has to move those 9.85/9.875 scores into the 9.9/9.925 scores.

But to be fair, its hard to win event titles when Finnegan is getting 9.95 or higher on every apparatus (minus vault)

The coaches planned for Gunter to be a floor specialist. She was training a double Arabian before her injury.


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Oh okay I appreciate the response. Hopefully some of the girls on the team can step up and get better for next season. I’d love to see Ruby get better personally.



Ruby is really big example of what is wrong with coaches in the elite world. Ruby is an extremely gifted gymnast and has done a lot in this sport, but I hated her coaches. It was 100% all about difficulty and nothing on execution. All they did was slam her elite routines with difficult skills and try to outscore people. She was able to outscore many on bars but was never able to truly get to that next level since the execution was sloppy.

That is the big reason why she struggled extremely early at LSU. NCAA level is all about consistency and clean execution, the complete opposite of everything her coaches focused on in the elite world.

That said, I expect a big year for Ruby as a senior. She has cleaned up on every event really well and has been much more consistent.


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TB357,,, would you address the thoughts above with your expectations??



TLDR...

LSU will be very good next year, but it will heavily depend on the health of the sophomore class and how the incoming freshmen adjust. If the sophomores can develop a little more and expand a little on what they did this year, LSU will be fine, despite it seeming gloomy with the senior losses.

Vault- Kai and Kiya IMO will help this event a lot. Both are big vaulters. Kiya comes into LSU using a double twisting yurchecnko, she scored a 10 on this vault at regionals a week ago. Kai, they will probably get her to do a 1 1/2 but how soon they use it is early to tell. I am guessing they will go with a full at first for a "clean lead off". Ferrer they are planning on a bigger roles this year on that power events.

1. Kai Rivers
2. Ruby Harrold (10.0)
3. Bailey Ferrer (10.0)
4. Edwards (10.0)
5. Kiya Johnson (10.0)
6. Edney (10.0)
Other vaulters include Kirby, Desiderio, possibly Dean

Bars- Losing Priessman and Finnegan are major losses as they were consistent high scorers. They need Ferrer to Clean up her feet and small form breaks but she is clearly capable. Kai and Kiya are good bar workers. Caitlin Smith is an X factor but it all depends on the shape she is in when she Gets to LSU. Kirby could easily be in this lineup but it depends on her consistency.

1. Durante
2. Ferrer
3. Harrold
4. Kiya Johnson
5. Edney
6. Kai Rivers (yes her bars are that great)

Back ups include Kirby, Caitlin Smith, Dean

Beam- Probably the strength next year returning 5/6 routines and then add a big time beamer from Texas Dreams (Kiya). If anything we improve a lot here. They just have to clean up the leaps.

1. Desidero
2. Dean
3. Durante
4. Edney
5. Kiya Johnson
6. Campbell

Back ups include Smith, Kirby, D'Anotinio

Floor- Losing 3 routines is tough considering the quality of those. But Kai and Kiya are top floor workers and bring double layouts to open their routines. Ferrer will definitely be in this lineup next year as well, she had some ankle problems that kept her out this year from training.

1. Harrold
2. Desiderio (could move down the lineup depending on shape she is in)
3. Ferrer
4. Kai Rivers
5. Edney
6. Kiya Johnson

Keep an eye out on Campbell and Dean though. Ferrer easily should be in this lineup but if she isn't prepared, Campbell or Dean will take that. Edwards could too.

I think LSU fans can expect big things from Kai and Kiya immediately off the bat. They are as advertised, I promise. Of course things can change dramatically if people aren't healthy so lets all knock on wood...
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tlricks04
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I agree! I think the weakest event next year will be bars. I’m still not sold on Bailey nor Dean nor Kirby. Ruby’s form isn’t always the best, and at times she can be hit or miss (although mostly hit). Edney and Durante are our two most consistent bar workers. Kai will be in this lineup and Kiya should (Jay should be able to clean up her form).

Also, I’ve had a chance to rewatch Nationals. I watched every routine from Oklahoma. Their form is insane. Their vaults were crazy good, and they put up 6 10.0 sv vaults. LSU is capable of this next year. I hope Kiya keeps her double full.


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