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re: LSU Baseball 2024 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread OLD THREAD

Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Tight 10
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:42 am to
We on em baws!!!
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:56 am to
Kiley McDaniel final draft list

Konnor Griffin (7)
- Cam Caminiti (13)
- Tommy White (29)
- William Schmidt (33)
- Luke Holman (45)
- Gage Jump (48)
- Boston Bateman (62)
- Griffin Herring (118)
Thatcher Hurd (142)
- Cade Arrambide (170)
- Mavrick Rizy (210)
- Michael Ryan (213)
- Jared Jones (230)
- Kale Fountain (235)


Everyone entitled to their own opinion, but was hoping Herring would be lower, I think he’s the most important recruit out there
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by GumpHater24
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:59 am to
Jared Jones at 230? I mean he’s got to come back ranked at that.
Posted by Datsmoneydude
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:05 pm to
Man I just have a feeling this draft is about to be rough
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:10 pm to
All about the money offered. Those ranking do not take into account what teams may have extra money to throw around and what teams are more interested in him. That's all stuff we do not know. If he gets 500K+ thrown his way then I believe he will go. If he doesn't get that offered then I think he enjoys LSU enough to stay. All it takes is 1 team though.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:16 pm to
This is also considered a lower talent level draft class.

But the money still has to be spent. There are guys like Herring and Jones who should probably take the money this year because they'll be in a more crowded class next year and the money won't be the same.

It's why we also have to watch out for Stanfield, and to a lesser degree Cowan.

I'm skeptical we get Hayden to campus because of it.
Posted by GumpHater24
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:40 pm to
Yeah, I totally forgot about the money slot value and stuff ??????? that is definitely gonna play a factor
Posted by GumpHater24
Member since Aug 2016
128 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:40 pm to
Didn’t mean for all the ???? either
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:58 pm to
Slot values and what I think players should do.

Konnor Griffin (7) - $10.5 million (gone)
Cam Caminiti (13) - $5.7 million (gone)
Tommy White (29) - $3.0 million (gone)
William Schmidt (33) - $2.7 million (gone, but I'm holding out hope )
Luke Holman (45) - $2.0 million (gone)
Gage Jump (48) - $1.9 million (gone)
Boston Bateman (62) $1.3 million (gone)
Griffin Herring (118) $612k (If a team didn't go above slot value here, coming back could double this bonus. Should probably stay)
Thatcher Hurd (142) $485k (gone)
Cade Arrambide (170) $372k (college)
Mavrick Rizy (210) $268k (college)
Michael Ryan (213) $261k (college)
Jared Jones (230) $230k (See Herring. Should stay.)
Kale Fountain (235) $222k (college)
Posted by Biggmatt78
Pineville
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:04 pm to
It’s roughly the same song and dance every year
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:08 pm to
what’s interesting about this year is the 2 big sophomores who are eligible

because they both can come back and still have leverage and I think they both can improve their stock.

Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:18 pm to
With him being a Sophomore he could really improve that by coming back and still having leverage
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:22 pm to
You really think Jones would go for $500k?

Seems like he could come back, work on improving his BA to around .350 while still hitting 25-30 bombs as a junior with leverage he would double that signing bonus easily
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:35 pm to
He could, but that is no easy task. He is a big power hitting RH 1B. He would have to significantly better his K rate/swing and miss rate. His only plus tool at the next level is the power. That’s going to be hard for teams to be willing to pay 1 mil for in my opinion.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

You really think Jones would go for $500k?


I think if a team wants him, they'll be able to pay him a lot more than $500K to sign.

I don't think that will necessarily be the case next draft. And he certainly wouldn't have the same amount of leverage to be able to demand it next draft. So he would have to significantly cut his K rate and specifically his chase rate.
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
4234 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:46 pm to
500k he is getting 50% this year and will be paying taxes and agent fees out of it. So most likely less than 200k when it’s all said and done. Then he will get the other 250k next year. Then he will get his 20k a year salary or whatever it is now.

It’s not like an NIL deal can’t be put together that would be similar or at least get close to what he would take home this year. It all comes down to if he can do enough to jump into the top rounds next year. He would need to improve his stock enough that he could get into a draft position where his bonus would double. I’m guessing that’s cracking the top 100 next year.

The question is, is there anything he can do to improve his draft stock? I’m not certain just coming back and hitting .350 with 30 bombs will be enough. It seems like he would have to figure out how to be a catcher to make the juice worth the squeeze and I have no clue if that can be done in a year. I guess maybe he could come back and have a great season and give some team Pete Alonso vibes but I don’t know enough about scouting to make that comparison.
Posted by JackHuntFTW
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:58 pm to
I agree. Pretty much every scout I’ve seen talk about him agrees that he can’t really improve his stock by coming back even if his stats improve. He’s still going to be a right handed, first base only, with a high K rate next year. If he can’t improve his stock then the only reason to come back is if he just wants another year of college for fun. I don’t expect him back.

Herring is the one who could improve his stock because at this point he’s only proven himself to be a reliever and there’s literally zero MLB relievers now who sit 91-92, even lefties. But if he proves he can throw 6-7 innings then I could see him being a Patrick Corbin type guy.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted by notbilly
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

It seems like he would have to figure out how to be a catcher to make the juice worth the squeeze and I have no clue if that can be done in a year.


He’s catcher that’s been playing 1B bc we already had 3 catchers. He’s pretty good catcher according to Josh Jordan who coaches them.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2415 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:03 pm to
Pete Alonso had a K rate of 12% in his draft season. Another power RH 1B in the recent past was Ivan Melendez and he dropped his K rate drastically his last year in college to 16%.

Jared Jones K rate was 26% this past season. He would have to get it down under 20% to get that big time jump in draft stock in my opinion.

Caglione as a top pick this year had a K rate of 8% this past season. With how hard he hits baseball that is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2415 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:11 pm to
Even if he is a serviceable catcher in college there will likely be no MLB teams who will consider him a catcher so I do not think that would help him any. You don't see very many big body catchers in the MLB. The ones that do make it there do not stick long and transition to 1B.
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