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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:07 am to TooncesLeftNut
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Jared Jones could definitely improve his draft stock by proving he could play decent defense behind the plate.
I agree that is a way he can improve his stock, I'm just not sure exactly how much it would improve.
The only other way would be to significantly reduce his whiff rate. I think in that video with Joe Doyle that was posted last week, he said Jones has a whiff rate of 30+%. Also referenced Ivan Melendez and how he skyrocketed his draft stock because he improved his whiff rate from 30+% to something around 17-19%. That is not really an easy thing to do though. Doyle said even if Jones can bring the whiff rate down to around 25% that it could possibly help him a little bit but would need a big jump similar to Melendez to make it into the top 2 rounds. Of course that is all based on his opinions of scouting. We all know all it takes is 1 of 30 teams to fall in love with the raw power and feel they can go ahead and pay him and develop him to cut out some of that whiff rate.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:12 am to TooncesLeftNut
Jared Jones is not all of a sudden a catcher after 2 seasons.
Furthermore why would anyone want him catching games, suddenl?
You can’t have “catcher by default” or “SS by default” and think you are going to have a good team.
Furthermore why would anyone want him catching games, suddenl?
You can’t have “catcher by default” or “SS by default” and think you are going to have a good team.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:15 am to Lester Earl
That is what I'm thinking. I think he could maybe catch 1 game a week if he is serviceable there, but if he is only catching 1 game a week at the college level why would MLB scouts thinks it translates. That is why in my last post I said it could help but I don't know by how much. Not sure how much draft stock would rise if teams think you can be an emergency catcher at best.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:17 am to Lester Earl
Was it not said Jared Jones worked out with the catchers preseason this past year, just got moved to 1B with C being as crowded as it was? It’s not like it’d be taking a lifetime CF and sticking him behind the plate for the first time. He’s played the position before, and if it doesn’t work out then you move him back to first and shuffle the lineup to keep his bat.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:20 am to BayTiger13
I think the best way to raise his draft stock is to cut his K% even more.
He cut it by 8.5% in one year. 34% to 26%.
If he can cut it down another 6-8%, his improvements will be too obvious for teams to ignore.
He cut it by 8.5% in one year. 34% to 26%.
If he can cut it down another 6-8%, his improvements will be too obvious for teams to ignore.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:22 am to saturncube21
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Whose our next commit?
I want it to be Dickinson. He’s your SS the second he announces, if he does
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:23 am to Tigah14
Is the door closed on Kucherak?
ETA: In general.
ETA: In general.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 10:24 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:27 am to Lester Earl
With the way he improved his plate discipline this year, especially towards the end of the season, I really don’t think it will be that difficult to improve his wiff rate a significant amount.
If he continues to not chase unhitable pitches, and make improvement in his contact, he will not only dramatically decrease his wiff rate, but increase his home run numbers to 30+. We just need someone to protect him instead of him protecting Tommy.
If he continues to not chase unhitable pitches, and make improvement in his contact, he will not only dramatically decrease his wiff rate, but increase his home run numbers to 30+. We just need someone to protect him instead of him protecting Tommy.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:30 am to TooncesLeftNut
I believe I read he caught in the fall/preseason in both 2023 and 2024. 1B was just the easiest way to fit everyone into the lineup because Neal came in as the #2 overall catcher in their class. But Jones was #4.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:35 am to ProjectP2294
Braswell isn't going to be offered a lot by MLB, but If we sign a SS in the portal, he's not staying to sit the bench. If we miss in the portal, I'm sure we could offer a NIL to keep him.
Jones should probably go. He has just as much of chance of improving his stock as his stock sliding. I just think Jay is going to convince him to stay. He has a chance to be a legacy next year, bet on himself and have a really great experience. Jay wins, Jones stays.
With Herring and Jones it will depend on what they are offered and we can't predict that. I will say it's going to take a lot money to pry Herring away.
Jones should probably go. He has just as much of chance of improving his stock as his stock sliding. I just think Jay is going to convince him to stay. He has a chance to be a legacy next year, bet on himself and have a really great experience. Jay wins, Jones stays.
With Herring and Jones it will depend on what they are offered and we can't predict that. I will say it's going to take a lot money to pry Herring away.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:36 am to nps6724
Jones caught in 13 fall scrimmages and 4 spring scrimmages. It isn't that he is not working there or that he isn't capable of doing it, the question is to what level can he do it and none of us really know that answer because he has not been in games at catcher.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:40 am to Lester Earl
quote:I mean I think the answer is easy - if that's what it takes to get him back to LSU, then that's why you want it. I don't think anyone here is arguing we should have him catch just to catch. It's to get him back to campus... if that's what it takes. Play 1B mostly, catch one weekend game and a mid-week game, cut your K rate, raise your stock.
Furthermore why would anyone want him catching games, suddenl?
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:46 am to Lester Earl
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Jared Jones is not all of a sudden a catcher after 2 seasons.
He caught games prior to coming here and also has done it in practice and a number of scrimmages here.
The answer to why he wasnt a catcher first 2 years here is squarely in us having Milazzo, Travinski and Neal. On top of that, we had a big need at 1B with Morgan leaving this past season which he filled.
If he's capable of catching like a mid-week game and maybe a weekend game on occasion each week it can certainly help his stock some if he's capable there. It just shows he's not just a DH/ RH 1B prospect which is one of his most limited factors right now. Yes he can improve if suddenly his k rate went way down, I'd argue it'd be easier for him to just catch some games here and there and show he's capable of doing that to scouts. Who knows, maybe he hits even more home runs than this season if he came back as well. Certainly not easy to eclipse 28 but we've seen a few guys in the mid-30s recently and he's got that kind of power if he can do so while maintaining his average roughly (or even improving there).
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:48 am to thunderbird1100
Scouts won’t care if he catches a midweek game here or there. Because he will never catch in the pros
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:50 am to Lester Earl
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Scouts won’t care if he catches a midweek game here or there. Because he will never catch in the pros
If he shows he's capable it can absolutely help show them it's a possibility. Right now it's probably considered a long shot considering he's never caught a competitive game in college.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:58 am to thunderbird1100
I'm on Lester's side here. Whether he catches a midweek game or doesn't catch at all I do not think it will translate to scouts saying he can catch at the MLB level. He would have to show he can catch on weekends in the SEC and do it at a respectable level to get the attention of scouts.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:00 am to BayTiger13
If he hits at the rate he did this past year and proves he can be an average SEC catcher then he 100% improves his draft stock. Not even a question.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:04 am to TooncesLeftNut
I think the idea here is how do you get Jared Jones back to campus and hitting at the middle of the order. If catching a game or two gets him back to campus you do it. Will it raise his stock? Who knows. If it gets him back to campus that's the whole point.
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