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re: LSU Baseball 2022 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread (OLD THREAD, PLEASE STICKY NEW ONE)

Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:00 pm to
Agreed, if they go in the top 7-8 rounds, km calling them gone
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:32 pm to
I just don't think it'll be as cut and dry anymore. We're in a period when kids make it to and through college baseball. Now, I do still think we lose at least 6 guys from the class, including portal/juco guys, but I'm not sure exactly which ones. And, I'm still not sure on some guys from the 2022 roster.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:40 pm to
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feel like if those guys do slip and still get drafted it’s probably because they worked it out to get to their number, not just a shot in the dark they would agree to a lower slot


Yup. It’s very planned and precise.

If Romero drops and is selected it’s because he’s already agreed on the money
Posted by Pistol 23
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:28 pm to
If Vegas put a line on the over/under number of our signees who get drafted and sign, what would that number be?

8 1/2?

I would like to know what others think including the gurus on this thread. BTW, I really appreciate the feedback from everyone on this thread. Some of you guys are impressive with your knowledge. If I asked for the height, weight, batting average and social security number of the 3rd string catcher at Tennessee Tech, someone would have it within 10 minutes.
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:28 am to
I was thinking 8. Jay said 5 are gone and then you have to worry about everyone else.

Anything less than 8 and I will be happy, more than 8 and I will be disappointed. Neal and Kennedy are two that I am particulary eyeballing. We don't have a complete catcher on the roster or in the class, besides Neal. He would be a huge get. Kennedy is a lefty with starting potential. His ceiling might not be as high as some and signability give us a good chance with him.
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:17 am to
Just to expand on that thought a little more. If we assess team needs for 2023, my opinion would be SP, Closing pitching, middle infield, two way catcher and replacing Berry and Doughty's bats.

Everyone agrees that pitching is the big need, so I will focus there. Bullpen will be great, no worries there. There are question marks for all the potential starting and closing pitchers. We need numbers to increase our odds, just in case.

The three portal arms all have the potential to start. Floyd is definitely in the mix and to some degree Taylor, eventhough I see him more closing.

The HS and JUCO class is full of potential starters and closers but not all of them will be in the mix in 2023. If I were to guess at the one's that could start in 2023, I would say Snelling, Shores, Noot, Misiorowski, Kennedy and Ackenhausen. I would be happy getting 3 of those 6.

There are plenty of other pitchers that I didn't mention that could surprise and hopefully will. I'm seeing that as just a bonus if it happens.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 4:16 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:44 am to
4am coffee

This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 3:45 am
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 4:03 am to
lol. 11:00am in Switzerland. I'm getting bored of eating cheese, practicing yodeling. I'm waiting for you guys to wake up so I have something to read. I could use a hamburger and fries as well.
Posted by TravisBRTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:37 am to
I agree with your pitching assessment, but I think Herring and Moffett have starter potential as well. This class really is loaded top to bottom.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:44 am to
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I was thinking 8. Jay said 5 are gone and then you have to worry about everyone else.


Jay said 5 are gone for sure, and then 6 more are 50/50. I don't know if he included Kling in the six 50/50 players but I'm glad he pulled his name out. I wish a few more would do the same, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen now.
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:38 am to
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I think Herring and Moffett have starter potential as well.


Herring is not ranked very high for some reason. Perhaps it is because his ceiling in the MLB is not as high, I don't know. Great numbers, Lefty, great intangibles. I'm excited about him and Moffett for sure.

I think there are quite a few pitchers that have starter potential besides the one's we listed: Bronzini, Buckham, Siravo, G Fontenot, Dutton, Money, maybe more. Somebody is going to emerge from the second group as well. I'm just focused on the six I listed and Neal for the draft.

I don't think Guidry is crucial to this draft because of what we did in the portal but he would be an awesome get and very important for 2024.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:59 am to
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I don't think Guidry is crucial to this draft because of what we did in the portal but he would be an awesome get and very important for 2024.




He can pitch too, though.

And if he can hit, I reckon he could play just about any position on the field.

Of course he is crucial.
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:02 am to
Guidry is arguably the most crucial piece to this recruiting class
Posted by subidc
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:21 am to
Guidry, the catchers, and 4 strong pitchers and I would be happy.
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:27 am to
Yea, Johnson has made the comment of him being a huge get if he makes it to campus. Jay said Guidry is the kind of guy you build a championship team around.
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:54 am to
I could have worded that better. I get the love for Guidry but there is no gaurantee he will even start. I could say the same about Kling.

If either one or both of them do start, how much will the position be upgraded? For example, Guidry over Pineda or Kling over Dugas, are we talking about major upgrade or just a little upgrade?

Jay has set this team up pretty good in the portal. I'm not sure if any one recruit is crucial or critical to the 2023 season. I certainly don't see an infielder or outfielder having a major impact over what we have.

I'm not saying they are unimportant, because they could be cornerstones for the 2024 season. I'm just saying Neal and a big arm could be more important to 2023 than either of those two guys.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:08 am to
I see what you are trying to say now. You are specifically talking impact on the 2023 team. I would agree that Neal and Kennedy/Shores/Noot would probably be your most impactful on next years team out of the guys in the draft. Kling will impact next years team also. I think he ends up in RF because he will be too good for Jay to keep out of the lineup. Guidry is more crucial to the program as a whole than just impactful on next years team. Being a legit 2 way guy, he can help the team a good bit even if he isn't an everyday type of player as a freshman.

As a coach, I think the main goal is to have a team that you don't have very many freshman playing. That means you built the team right and give those young guys a chance to develop and adjust to the speed of the college game. Now if a freshman is good enough to win a spot then so be it. The goal would be to only have 1-2 freshman a year starting. Means you are developing players and the older experienced guys are the ones getting the playing time.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:16 am to
You are trying to paint the picture too far in advance, and it almost never will end up working out that way this far out.

Shoot, we tracked fall & spring stats leading up to February, and while it gave us a better idea, we still didn’t know.

Meridield & Gio we’re both starters in week 1 and we’re irrelevant by the end of the year, for instance.

If Guidry hits, he is athletic enough for them to find regular at bats for while playing all over the field. He is a huge piece that you want on campus. Get him in at all costs
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:32 am to
Yeah, I didn't word that very well. I was just looking at 2023. Getting a starting pitcher and a catcher that can play both offense and defense would upgrade this team more than any infielder or outfielder.

Posted by SoloTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:50 am to
IMO Kling is an absolute upgrade over Dugas from a defensive standpoint.

Hitting to be determined.
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