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re: LSU Baseball 2022 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread (OLD THREAD, PLEASE STICKY NEW ONE)
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:20 am to DRock88
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:20 am to DRock88
You can look at stats with a 3 year career. He hit well in a limited number of AB’s as a freshman, but hasn’t done well once becoming a full time starter. He’s got a really high K rate, so it’s not like he’s just getting unlucky. Maybe he had some injuries holding him back, but hitting .240 in your career with a 30% K rate in almost 600 at bats isn’t exactly a small sample size for a college player. At some point, stats absolutely matter.
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:29 am to bugafor6
I don't disagree with you but I see it as more of taking a flyer on him. You already know JT/Pineda can play 2B/SS. Best case scenario is his JJ can get the best out of him and now you have an experienced starter with a good glove and some pop. At worst, you have an experienced backup.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:29 am to bugafor6
Ok, so will you take that or what Cranford/Safford has done?
Even if he comes here and for some reason doesn't take a starting spot, he provides really good depth.
Give me a nice Little/Young combo deal from Vandy.
Even if he comes here and for some reason doesn't take a starting spot, he provides really good depth.
Give me a nice Little/Young combo deal from Vandy.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:33 am to BayTiger13
You think he’s coming here to sit the bench? His role will compare nothing to Safford or Cranford.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:33 am to bugafor6
You completely missed what I was saying.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:39 am to bugafor6
Not at all, and I wouldn't expect his mindset to be that way. That doesn't mean CJJ promised him a starting spot. He's still going to have to perform to get on the field.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:39 am to bugafor6
At worst, he's a mirror image of Thompson at the plate but a far superior defender.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:41 am to bugafor6
No, but if he hits .240 with some pop & plays a good SS or 3B, you take it
Also owns an offsetting 11%BB and has the upside to be something more
Also owns an offsetting 11%BB and has the upside to be something more
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:42 am to BayTiger13
No, I didn’t. You asked if I’d prefer the impact that 2 walk ons made vs what Carter did. It’s a dumb argument to make.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:42 am to DRock88
I will say the strikeouts for Young are way worse than JT. He's got some more pop though and he's seen SEC pitching. That's kind of how I see it.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:47 am to Lester Earl
Switch-Hitter too.
He "looks" more natural from the left. Wonder what his breakdown of Ks is L/R.
He "looks" more natural from the left. Wonder what his breakdown of Ks is L/R.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:48 am to ccarrone0313
Walk/hbp rate is nearly identical and he outslugs Thompson. It gets you to about the same OBP, with pop, and good defense.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:54 am to DRock88
Their walk/HBP rate are the only things similar. Last year, Carter was really bad, so I’m assuming you are comparing him to the sophomore year Carter. Even then, they are polar opposite. Thompson has half as many strike outs and his OBP is .50 points higher. Carter hit for significantly more power tho.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:07 am to bugafor6
I'm just playing your game with the whole body of work argument, looking purely at stats over their career.
I don't really need to look at the stats for a guy like Carter Young, though. I've seen him play alot of baseball.
And, I'm not saying it has to be Carter Young or Jordan Thompson. JT is just a reference point.
I don't really need to look at the stats for a guy like Carter Young, though. I've seen him play alot of baseball.
And, I'm not saying it has to be Carter Young or Jordan Thompson. JT is just a reference point.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:08 am
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:11 am to DRock88
Baseball is the biggest analytical based sport in the industry right now. You follow it a lot. I’m not sure why you are trying to act like 3 years of track record is useless. You are drinking the off-season juice of looking at the best case scenario of every prospect. You follow baseball enough to look at things a little more objective than that.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:19 am to bugafor6
Yes, you did.
Johnson taking him doesn't guarantee him a starting spot. The opportunity to start is open for the taking. I'm saying if he comes here and doesn't perform better than our other options, he is absolutely better backup options than Safford and Cranford.
Overall he will make next years team better if he chooses to come here. If he performs well enough then he is a starter in the lineup everyday. IF he doesn't win a spot, then he is a really good back up. Wouldn't be an interesting take for Johnson at all. If he wants to come here you take him.
Johnson taking him doesn't guarantee him a starting spot. The opportunity to start is open for the taking. I'm saying if he comes here and doesn't perform better than our other options, he is absolutely better backup options than Safford and Cranford.
Overall he will make next years team better if he chooses to come here. If he performs well enough then he is a starter in the lineup everyday. IF he doesn't win a spot, then he is a really good back up. Wouldn't be an interesting take for Johnson at all. If he wants to come here you take him.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:27 am to BayTiger13
Micah Bucknam will be making a start for the Trenton Thunder tonight at 6 central.
Bucknam is now a very interesting prospect as he passed up signing with the Blue Jays last draft and flipped his commitment from Washington to LSU.
Bucknam is now a very interesting prospect as he passed up signing with the Blue Jays last draft and flipped his commitment from Washington to LSU.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:29 am to BayTiger13
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Johnson taking him doesn't guarantee him a starting spot.
I mean it kind of does. Unless he is terrible. A high profile guy like that isn’t switching schools to not play.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:31 am to BayTiger13
If he wants to come. A 2 year starter a top program isn’t going to come here with the impression that he will possibly be bench depth if he doesn’t immediately perform. This is a high profile guy coming out of school, and if he doesn’t play at his next stop, his career will be over much sooner than he expected. I’m sure that is a major talking point in his recruitment and something that Jay will have to ensure him of if he decides to come here.
Y’all are way too shallow on the transfer stuff thinking every guy is willing to play a Tyler McManus role.
Y’all are way too shallow on the transfer stuff thinking every guy is willing to play a Tyler McManus role.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:34 am to bugafor6
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Baseball is the biggest analytical based sport in the industry right now. You follow it a lot. I’m not sure why you are trying to act like 3 years of track record is useless. You are drinking the off-season juice of looking at the best case scenario of every prospect. You follow baseball enough to look at things a little more objective than that.
When evaluating a prospect, be it a high school recruit, transfer, draft prospect, pro prospect, etc...you absolutely do not exclusively rely on statistical analysis. And, when you do use stats, you also have to look at context.
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