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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:13 am to
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:13 am to
Their pool amount is determined by the total of their slot values in the first 10 rounds. If they fail to sign a top 10 pick that slot amount is deducted from their total pool.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:36 am to
But if they sign someone under the slot value on their pick, they can use the money they saved to go over on others.
Posted by rookietiger995
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:44 am to
Right so let's say they sign there 1st round guy for 1 mill below slot value. Can they take as much as they want and move that to someone else or is there a cap on how much they can move to 1 pick. I thought I heard you could only go 10% above slot no matter what but not sure that's right?? If slot value is 755k then you could only go 75k above?? I have to be thinking about this incorrectly??
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:49 am to
No, they're only penalized if they go over the total. The penalties become more extreme the farther over they go. Also any picks signed in excess of 100K outside of the top 10 rounds have the excess amount deducted from the pool.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:56 am to
No penalty for going 10% or less over the total pool. Very stiff penalties if they exceed the 10% though, if I remember correctly.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:09 am to
There is a tax on the overage amount. Once they hit 10% over the tax is 100% of the overage plus picks in the next draft.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:21 am to
Ah okay, I haven't looked at in a few years. I just know that the 10% is not a deterrent for pretty much any team.

I just did the math, the total bonus pool this year (across all teams) is $11,597,900 more than last year. That's an average of around $37k more for each pick in the top 10 rounds. The first and second pick were reduced significantly from last year, but every pick from 3-59 has a higher slot amount than last year.

So essentially they flattened out the top 2 rounds.
Posted by robg1124
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2006
286 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:52 pm to
Too bad that LSU did not try and get Trey Dawson and Brody Wofford back. Both could have helped.
Dawson is going to Kentucky. I do not know where Wofford is going.
LSU may have to look for an infielder somewhere this summer.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:54 pm to
I looked up Dawson a few days ago and noticed he hit like .280 with 9 hr. Could have used him next year. Interested to see if we try and get another infielder or just ride with Reid at 3rd and Slaughter at 2nd. Assuming storz makes it to campus I really hope CPM gives him a shot at DH.

Also, I wonder if Templet is going to look to transfer or is going to stick it out and try to win a spot next year. He's pretty versatile defensively
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted by robg1124
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2006
286 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:58 pm to
Not sure we would have to play Reid just yet. There will be competition. Basically, we need one of Templet or Woley to be a player and Slaughter needs to be able to play 2B.

I am thinking Templet at 3B, Smith at SS, Slaughter at 2B, Coomes at 1B.

Bryce Jordan comes back and is the DH. Unless Storz shows up and can mash then maybe he is the DH and Bryce plays some 1B.
Posted by robg1124
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2006
286 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:59 pm to
The word is Templet is sticking it out. He knew the infield was crowded according to a poster on here.
He will be back and ready to compete I think.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Templet at 3B, Smith at SS, Slaughter at 2B, Coomes at 1B.


Switch Templet and Slaughter.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:24 pm to
Storz might well end up as your first baseman. You can't teach 6-5 with a big wingspan, and the MLB scouts raved about his power at the plate.

If Bechtold signs, which is probable, they're likely going to sign another infielder. My guess is it would be a JUCO kid.

The obvious candidate would be Brandt Broussard from Delgado, who hit .429 with 16 doubles and 15 stolen bases (37 walks against 22 strikeouts in 170 AB) this year. He's a little bitty guy (5-10, 160) kind of like Cole Freeman was, and he's a VERY slick fielder (.973, only six errors at second base). Broussard is a bit like Hal Hughes, who you've already signed, so there might be a question what he gives you that Hughes wouldn't already, but he's got the defense and with a .531 on-base percentage he's definitely a kid who can set the table.

Another guy is Luke Watson, who's a 6-1, 185-pound 2nd baseman for San Jacinto. Watson batted 3-hole for San Jac, who lost to Chipola in the JUCO World Series championship. He hit .406 for them, though he's not a power hitter (9 2B, 2 3B, 1 HR, 31 RBI), and fielded at a decent .940 with 20 double plays.

There are a few other pretty good guys out there. One thing I've heard is this - Nolan Cain was unlike Cannizaro in that Cain missed a ton of midweek games because he went on scouting trips. Cannizaro didn't do all that much of that; he scouted off the pro evals. So Cain may have a guy or two out there he could reel in who could fill a hole for us.

Or maybe Templet or Woley or Webre could come in and nail down third base and you don't really need another guy. Who knows?
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:33 pm to
If Cabrera makes it to campus my lineup would be.

OF - Duplantis
OF - Webre
OF - Cabrera
3rd - Coomes/Slaughter
2nd - Watson
1st - Slaughter/Storz
C - Ferducci/Coomes
DH - Storz/Bryce Jordan/Beau Jordan/ etc
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:36 pm to
Ugh

Forgot

SS- Smith
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61450 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

2nd - Watson


I just don't see you taking the fastest guy on the team that has locked down CF and moving him to 2nd base. Not when you have Slaughter that can play 2nd.
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:41 pm to
Valid point.

My main point is that if Cabrera and Ferducci both make it to LSU we have a lot of options.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:56 pm to
I can't see any way your three outfielders aren't Watson in center, Duplantis in left and Cabrera in right. That's got to be set in stone.

Where you have openings is third and first. Unless you take somebody who can plug in at second, which would allow you to put Slaughter at third. A lot will depend on how Templet, Woley and Webre look in summer ball - if one of those kids shows out and maybe gives you a reason to plug him in, then you might well fill a spot.

But Storz is potentially a game-changer. He could give you that monster cleanup man to replace Deichmann.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73620 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 5:12 pm to
Feduccia and Doolittle will split time behind the plate.

Slaughter will either be at 2nd or 3rd. I could see him at third with a freshman at 2nd, either Webre or Hughes. Of Hughes at 3rd.

Webre can play pretty much all over the field. I'd give him a Mason Katz comp, but he's a better outfielder than Katz was. He threw a guy out at home from left field the other night.

Hughes is still adjusting to hitting with the wood bat, but he had a home run yesterday.

Templet will have a chance at 1B, 3B, and DH. Coomes will also get ABs at 1B and DH.

We're still sitting at around 36/35 (I think, I'm counting every person with eligibility that's been drafted as gone). So any late additions would still require attrition. If the Hilliard grade issues are accurate, we're at 35/35.

If literally no one else gets drafted and signs, then we don't need anyone to transfer out.
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 5:17 pm to
Agreed

I enjoy baseball recruiting and the season because of all of the different variables that come into play.

So many different moving parts.

Fun times.

It will be interesting to look at it all again when we know who is on campus.

Agree about Storz.
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