I'm not saying not take him. I wouldn't have him as my primary qb recruit. I'm not saying he couldn't be an exception. He can. I'm saying, and not based on bias, the odds of a guy shorter than six feet are greater to not succeed at this level than they are to succeed. That's just fact. Most of these small guys do get a chance at smaller schools. However, out of close to 130 schools per year, one or two per decade succeed.

Paul turner was a great small qb I'm high school. Texas has dozens every year. At the end of the day they have 6 ft 4 to 6 6 guys In front of them. No different than a great short point guard in basketball. Put a tall quick and long guy on him, he all of sudden isn't great anymore. Are there exceptions, yes. Most of the time the bigger player, by a wide margin, wins out.

If we have room to take a shot at him, let's do it. If we have to tell a big time d tackle, wr, oline man no to get him, then pass.

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Posted by GetmorewithLes

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Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:59 am to Olddawg

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they won most games because everyone went deep and he took off running

Not true. He is very mature in his training to hit the intermediate throws. That was one of his biggest recruiting accolades. He did go up against your Calvary three headed dragon with the three D1 commits in the DBs.

Zachary was moving the ball well against Calvary up until their big mule RB went out with a knee/ankle sprain in the early 2nd qtr. After that the offense was all on Scott for running and passing and Calvary was able to turn the game around for the win.

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Posted by boxcar willie

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Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:21 am to dos crystal

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remember herb Tyler too. His asset was his feet. Not his passing. He couldn't see over the tall oline, and he struggled to complete a ball across the middle or deeper than 10 yards.

well this kid seems to be able to make those throws, so there is that difference as well.

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Posted by prepsportsallday

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Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:49 am to dos crystal

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the odds of a guy shorter than six feet are greater to not succeed at this level than they are to succeed. That's just fact.

I disagree bro. The facts show one thing. That there are fewer shorter QBs on the FBS level. And that is because, Coaches prefer taller.

A more empirical analysis on QB and Height was done by Scott Kacsmar, of Coldhardfootballfacts.com. In this extensive article he concludes (and I agree) LINK /

He concludes that there is little data support any other than the conclusion that there has simply been more QBs above 6'0" than shorter.

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At the end of the day they have 6 ft 4 to 6 6 guys In front of them. No different than a great short point guard in basketball. Put a tall quick and long guy on him, he all of sudden isn't great anymore.

Basketball is a bad analogy. In BBall, players play face to face, within less than a foot of each other. QBs after dropping back are generally 3 - 8 yds from the nearest defender. The further his drop, the more vision is created. And again, a 6'3 QB cannot see "OVER" a 6'6 line either. QBs dont see over the line. They see between it.

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If we have room to take a shot at him, let's do it. If we have to tell a big time d tackle, wr, oline man no to get him, then pass.

I'm not saying that we should take a shot on him. I'm just saying that if his height is the reason we didnt, there's a good chance that the decision could come back to bite.

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