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re: Let's use Jordan Burch in portal as a case study.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:08 pm to r0cky1
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:08 pm to r0cky1
Okay. You're right, LSU doesn't tamper only every other university except us does. There's no correlation at all between LSU getting Wingo's HS coach, him already being a star freshman in SEC, LSU being a dumpster fire program at the time in rebuild mode, and tampering to get him over here alongside everyone else in the portal.
LSU is about to use Steeples connection to land another guy who just hit the portal but that's a coincidence too huh that he went to portal and is going straight to LSU with that connection?
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 2:09 pm
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:44 pm to deuce985
I’m not claiming LSU doesn’t tamper. The situations are objectively different. Please try and work on your reading comprehension.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:54 pm to r0cky1
That doesn't change the fact they tampered to get Wingo to attend LSU. That was the point being made and you brought up it wasn't a similar situation. who gives a shite? They still tampered to get him to attend. They tampered everyone in the portal probably.
LSU might have even made sure they had Wingo before they hired Steeples as an extra incentive to hire him. They probably thought they were going to get Grey at CB too but that didn't workout in this last recruiting class.
LSU might have even made sure they had Wingo before they hired Steeples as an extra incentive to hire him. They probably thought they were going to get Grey at CB too but that didn't workout in this last recruiting class.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:57 pm to deuce985
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That doesn't change the fact they tampered to get Wingo to attend LSU.
You have no idea if this is even true. You’re just making assumptions so just shut up already
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:00 pm to r0cky1
If you say so.
I'm sure Foucha, Brooks and all the others just decided they were going to up and leave a better Arkansas team at the time to attend their dream university. No incentive or tampering involved they just saw opportunity.
This is how the NCAA is now get use to it. As long as you're winning and can lay down the biggest bags you'll be okay. LSU is okay.
I'm sure Foucha, Brooks and all the others just decided they were going to up and leave a better Arkansas team at the time to attend their dream university. No incentive or tampering involved they just saw opportunity.
This is how the NCAA is now get use to it. As long as you're winning and can lay down the biggest bags you'll be okay. LSU is okay.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:10 pm to deuce985
They also know LSU is much better chance to play for something bigger than where they came from
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:12 pm to LifeAquatic
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One of my absolute favorite things about this board: There is no possible way any player could ever choose any school over LSU for any reason other than it being closer to home or NIL. It's simply beyond the pale to suggest that a single player anywhere would ever prefer a single aspect of any other school over LSU. As a corollary: Every single recruit we ever lose is because of NIL. Never change.
We’re talking about a kid who chose a USCe program that had been down for a bit and had a lame duck Muschamp who everyone knew was on the chopping block over the defending National Champions. You may have a point in some cases, but you sure as frick don’t here. There’s only ONE reason why Burch made that call. They had no other advantages over LSU other than geography.
As for what Burch is doing now, who the frick cares? I wouldn’t call him a bust, but he hasn’t lived up to the hype by any stretch. But whether it’s his primary motivation or not, we all know he’s getting paid well to move to Oregon. That’s what they do. They literally have a shell company of former Nike execs running their NIL operation like a Fortune 500.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:54 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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. This is tampering and this is a real problem with Portal.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:55 pm to truthbetold
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just reintroduce sitting a year unless you're a graduate.
Nope. Unless you are going to do the same with coaches.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:57 pm to bayou85
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I'm not saying LSU doesn't do something like this. But LSU as a brand is much different from Oregon. LSU wins natties and LSU puts loads of talent in the NFL. Purple and gold gets a longer look from scouts than green and yellow.
Irrelevant
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:00 pm to r0cky1
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I’m not claiming LSU doesn’t tamper. The situations are objectively different. Please try and work on your reading comprehension.
Tampering is tampering. There is not situation where it’s considered “okay” or “better”.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:02 pm to r0cky1
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You have no idea if this is even true. You’re just making assumptions so just shut up already
The same assumption you are making about other programs.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:05 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
“back channeling” 
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:15 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
See if VOL thinks he’s a SURE thing to LSU
AGAIN
AGAIN
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:46 pm to Lester Earl
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LSU cleans up in the portal, who cares
I agree with you on this. All of the screwed up changes in college football benefit LSU, from the portal to NIL to the 25 signing limit being waived.
However, it's bad for the sport overall.
I love college football and I hate what it has become, but I recognize that LSU is on the winning side of the changes.
BUT ... we were pretty fricking good before. I would rather go back.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:49 pm to deuce985
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Okay. You're right, LSU doesn't tamper only every other university except us does.
I've never seen a single person in an official capacity with any authority even hint that tampering carried any penalties.
Until I do, I'm going to assume that anyone crying about tampering is a fricking loser hall-monitor.
This is the equivalent of complaining about analysts actually participating in on-field coaching. Every school does it, it's not enforced, move on.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:49 pm to bayou85
In the Pacific Northwest, you see more "O" for Oregon than OSU, WSU, UW, Cal and Stanford combined.
Oregon is a huge name and Phil Knight / Nike has a lot to do with that
Oregon is a huge name and Phil Knight / Nike has a lot to do with that
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:57 pm to J2thaROC
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Nope. Unless you are going to do the same with coaches.
The only thing lazier than comparing players to coaches is comparing players to regular students.
It's moronic.
The NCAA has chosen not to make players sit out. They could and should. The idea that this cannot be regulated is incorrect. Transfers are, in fact, regulated now.
Comparing a player, who has 4-6 years in college max, to a coach who can have a 50-year or more career is comical.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:05 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I've never seen a single person in an official capacity with any authority even hint that tampering carried any penalties.
Are you serious? It's complained about all the time especially coaches getting their rosters pillaged.
It's in the NCAA rule books you can't tamper. That's essentially calling a signed up player on a roster and recruiting him to come play for you. It's illegal for the reasons you're seeing now in NCAA. The problem is proving it and that money is so rampant right now they don't have the resources to monitor it anymore.
You must have your head buried in the sand if you don't think anyone in any major capacity is complaining about it. Being able to do anything about it and complaining are 2 different things.
Have you not paid attention to what even guys like Saban have bitched about? Which btw, is hilarious because he probably does it more than anyone. What you have right now is worse than the NFL because they can call a star player at any university and offer money bags dropped on them to immediately transfer with no consequences. This is worse than the NFL because they're not binding them to contracts which is why you have massive power shifts per year with the portal. It's chaos and plenty names have bitched about it but know they have to adapt because there's not much they can do right now.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:13 pm to deuce985
So besides being a Karen bitching about tampering, you also can't read.
I specifically said "with any authority."
Coaches can bitch and cry, but they have no authority to do anything about it. Neither the NCAA, nor the conferences, have lifted a finger to even investigate a single tampering claim, as far as I can tell. (If I'm wrong, I will admit it).
Just accept that the NCAA has no intention of enforcing this and move on. You will be happier.
I specifically said "with any authority."
Coaches can bitch and cry, but they have no authority to do anything about it. Neither the NCAA, nor the conferences, have lifted a finger to even investigate a single tampering claim, as far as I can tell. (If I'm wrong, I will admit it).
Just accept that the NCAA has no intention of enforcing this and move on. You will be happier.
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