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Lets talk about switching to a 4-3 and how it affects recruiting
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:41 pm
I still don't fully get a 3-4 defense from what I hear from people is the Dline in a 3-4 don't really get to shine and they are there more to plug up the running lanes and let the Line backers do all the work. If we are in a 4-3 that means we would have 2 DT's? so Shelvin and Ika or Guilloroy? and then ends would still be Logan/Ferrel or Roy Taylor? (think taylor would move to DT in this situation but idk) so what would Webb Ojulari and those guys move to they would still be DE's correct? and the OLB's would be idek maybe Marcel Clark Devonta Lee off the top of my head but if you have any informaion on a 3-4 or what switching to a 4-3 would do to our line ups or are recruiting please let me know
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:42 pm to HTX_LSU
Hate it
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:47 pm to HTX_LSU
Logan, Farrell, Shelvin, Ika, Roy(unless he gets down to 270 or so), Taylor, Gaye(maybe), Evans, anyone over 285 or so would play DT. Edges (DE) would include Chaisson(if back but probably not), Moore, Anthony, Thornton(more hybrid OLB but could play Edge just needs more weight), Ojulari (same as Thornton just needs to gain weight), Cherry. Mike Williams is a tweener and Gaye probably is too. That’s all I can think of, but I would say we are better suited for a 3-4 as of today.
Edit: also Webb at edge
Edit: also Webb at edge
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:48 pm to HTX_LSU
I'll be honest...
I like it because we have multiple 4-3 DTs and few 3-4 DEs...
72/62 works in 4-3 but not 3-4 IMO.
Having said that, we also have some stud OLBs coming in that would not play naturally as a 4-3 DE, so not sure the best overall besides accommodating the DTs.
I like it because we have multiple 4-3 DTs and few 3-4 DEs...
72/62 works in 4-3 but not 3-4 IMO.
Having said that, we also have some stud OLBs coming in that would not play naturally as a 4-3 DE, so not sure the best overall besides accommodating the DTs.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:49 pm to HTX_LSU
What Aranda pretty much did was put the best 11 on the field and then find a way to use them. Like he did with Stevenson. Hopefully that's what the new DC does and you can call it whatever you want, 4 - 3, 3 - 4, 3-3-5, or 2 - 4 - 5. Just put the best players in the best positions to make the best plays
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:53 pm to FatMan
Why do the OLB's not fit naturally as a 4-3 DE? are they too small?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:56 pm to HTX_LSU
Yeah they're usually like 6-2+ and 235-250lbs (in college).
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:56 pm to FatMan
Shelvin and Ika both play NT though. 3-4.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:01 pm to ConeHawk
Not true. A lot of NFL defense have been running 4-3s with slightly smaller DE/LB Called a Leo. It’s 4-3 except the end is in a stand up position. There’s a strong side DE and weak side in the 4-3. We have the personnel. Plus you act like the guys that are 220 can’t put 15 lbs of muscle in the off season.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:19 pm to NamariTiger
Where is all of this 4-3 talk coming from? We haven't hired a new DC and the 3-4 is generally regarded as better against the spread.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:19 pm to ConeHawk
You can have 2 big boys in a 4-3 but not in a 3-4 (traditionally,)...
They might fit NT but are great DT for a 4-3
They might fit NT but are great DT for a 4-3
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:40 pm to HTX_LSU
I'll talk about it only after I see who Ed O hires.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:48 pm to LSU Bayou Tiger
THe numbers suggest a 4-3.
If we get McKinley Jackson we would have 16 dline for 3 positions.
Somebody's transferring if there are 13 non starters.
or
Somebody's moving over to OLINE, which I would suspect
they would be: N. Jenkins, E. Taylor and J. Evans.
furthermore, we have a three deep at LB, which is fine, but we have a 5 or 6 deep at DE.
E
Neil Farrell 6-4 290 sr
TK McClendon 6-5 270 sr
Jarrel Cherry 6-3 270 so
Joseph Evans 6-2 295 so
----Ali Gaye 6-6 280 jr
----Eric Taylor 6-4 290 fr
NT
Tyler Shelvin 6-3 340 jr
Siaki Ika 6-3 335 so
----Jacobian Guillory 6-2 330 Fr
E
Glen Logan 6-4 310 sr
Justin Thomas 6-5 265 sr
Soni Fanua 6-4 275 sr
Nelson Jenkins 6-4 300 so
----Jaquelin Roy 6-3 295 fr
----Michael Williams 6-2 280 so Tx Transfer
—————————-LINEBACKERS
olb
Travez Moore 6-4 250 sr
Desmond Little 6-6 220 so
----BJ Ojulari 6-3 235 fr
ILB
Damone Clark 6-2 220 so
Starks 6-2 225 so
----Antoine Sampah 6-2 225 fr
ILB
Micah Baskerville 6-3 220 jr
Devonte Lee 6-1 225 so
----Josh White 6-1 210 fr
olb
Ray Thornton 6-3 225 sr
Andre Anthony 6-4 245 sr
Ray Parker 6-5 240 so
----Phillip Webb 6-3 240 fr
——————————SAFETIES
Todd Harris 5-11 190 jr
Maurice Hampton 6-0 210 so
Cam Lewis 6-1 200 sr
Eric Monroe 6-1 200 sr
Jacoby Stevens 6-2 225 jr
Marcell Brooks 6-3 190 so
----Jordan Toles 6-2 195 fr
If we get McKinley Jackson we would have 16 dline for 3 positions.
Somebody's transferring if there are 13 non starters.
or
Somebody's moving over to OLINE, which I would suspect
they would be: N. Jenkins, E. Taylor and J. Evans.
furthermore, we have a three deep at LB, which is fine, but we have a 5 or 6 deep at DE.
E
Neil Farrell 6-4 290 sr
TK McClendon 6-5 270 sr
Jarrel Cherry 6-3 270 so
Joseph Evans 6-2 295 so
----Ali Gaye 6-6 280 jr
----Eric Taylor 6-4 290 fr
NT
Tyler Shelvin 6-3 340 jr
Siaki Ika 6-3 335 so
----Jacobian Guillory 6-2 330 Fr
E
Glen Logan 6-4 310 sr
Justin Thomas 6-5 265 sr
Soni Fanua 6-4 275 sr
Nelson Jenkins 6-4 300 so
----Jaquelin Roy 6-3 295 fr
----Michael Williams 6-2 280 so Tx Transfer
—————————-LINEBACKERS
olb
Travez Moore 6-4 250 sr
Desmond Little 6-6 220 so
----BJ Ojulari 6-3 235 fr
ILB
Damone Clark 6-2 220 so
Starks 6-2 225 so
----Antoine Sampah 6-2 225 fr
ILB
Micah Baskerville 6-3 220 jr
Devonte Lee 6-1 225 so
----Josh White 6-1 210 fr
olb
Ray Thornton 6-3 225 sr
Andre Anthony 6-4 245 sr
Ray Parker 6-5 240 so
----Phillip Webb 6-3 240 fr
——————————SAFETIES
Todd Harris 5-11 190 jr
Maurice Hampton 6-0 210 so
Cam Lewis 6-1 200 sr
Eric Monroe 6-1 200 sr
Jacoby Stevens 6-2 225 jr
Marcell Brooks 6-3 190 so
----Jordan Toles 6-2 195 fr
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:58 pm to Sissidog02
I think he meant Steven, son.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:58 pm to Sissidog02
i think he means J. stevens.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:04 pm to HTX_LSU
Man, Devonta Lee would be filthy as a linebacker.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:25 pm to Yat27
Does anyone know the story on what happened with McCallum?
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