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re: Let's face it. LSU has no hold on New Orleans

Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:38 am to
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:38 am to
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I'm simply stating that as a whole LSU throughout history has RARELY gotten top 50 talent from the nola area.



you're saying top 50 as in nationally?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:38 am to
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Frank Wilson is overrated


That's more on the fans than Frank. When you look at the current commits, he's brought in a pretty good haul so far.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:39 am to
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Hill from NOLA isn't an opinion, its wrong


are you serious? you do know Marquie Hill went to DE LA SALLE HIGH SCHOOL on St. Charles Avenue right?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:40 am to
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Hill was a Baton Rouge kid.


Might have been referring to Marquise Hill.


this proves to me that not many of you know jack shite about LSU football beyond 2007.
Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2012
1381 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:40 am to
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Hill from NOLA isn't an opinion, its wrong


why the frick would anyone be speaking about Nick Saban's recruiting efforts in regards to Jeremy Hill to LSU?
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:41 am to
I am sure Frank and Les realize this, but building relationships with High School coaches is the key...Target Pipeline schools, St. Aug, John Curtis, Karr, etc...Non LSU legacy kids are not as connected to LSU as we would hope...Most kids are first or second generation college kids to begin with...Kids look up and trust their High School coaches...That's where the holes are in our fences...
This is one of the primary reasons Frank Broyles of Baylor is a top candidate for the UT job...he has High School relationships that will solidify UT's talent pool
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:42 am to
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Frank Broyles of Baylor




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Target Pipeline schools, St. Aug, John Curtis, Karr, etc...Non LSU legacy kids are not as connected to LSU as we would hope...Most kids are first or second generation college kids to begin with...Kids look up and trust their High School coaches...That's where the holes are in our fences


I agree here. I think a lot of the toxicity at Karr has to do with Ellis and his family. LSU spurned both Senior and Junior. Senior ended up at Tulane. He was probably one of their most famous football alumns along with Pat Surtain until recently. Neither went to LSU.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 9:44 am
Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2012
1381 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:42 am to
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Frank Broyles


quote:

Baylor


lulz
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:42 am to
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Throw in some kids from Belle Chase
Just what we need, more Rocky Duplessis'!
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:45 am to
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he has High School relationships that will solidify UT's talent pool


He was a freaking HS coach like 8 years ago. Of course he has relationships there.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31778 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:46 am to
Arkansas is gonna be pissed that Frank Broyles is coaching at Baylor.
Posted by maddvector
from NOLA
Member since Jan 2006
390 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:48 am to
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Alexander is not a top tier kid...isaid top 50 LF - first in a VERY long time DW - good talent but not Top 50


They are considered NOLA.com top talent for this year....

No. 25 Donnie Alexander LB Edna Karr 6-0 200 LSU

LINK /
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31778 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:49 am to
was going national top 50-100 kids
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:50 am to
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I'm simply stating that as a whole LSU throughout history has RARELY gotten top 50 talent from the nola area


You may want to actually do research first.

2012
2011

LSU pulled the top 4 players out of NOLA

2010

There were no good recruits in NOLA

I did not feel like going back any further.
Posted by kennymorgan
Bella Vista, AR
Member since Dec 2005
4621 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:50 am to
Where is Malachi Dupre and Kenny Young in this discussion?
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31778 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:53 am to
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Where is Malachi Dupre and Kenny Young in this discussion?


Young probably heads to TAMU. Dupre seems to be likely a tiger but who knows with Curtis kids these days. (bait for JC apologists)
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7214 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:56 am to
The OP is not mistaken. I agree with the point he's trying to make which is that the inner city Nola kids don't come up dreaming of playing for LSU, nor is there any loyalty in their family to LSU unless their parents attended LSU (e.g. Beckham). Most of these kids grow up dreaming of playing for "flashy" schools like Miami, Fla. State, USC, etc. because they see those schools as the "cool place to be". Coincidentally, these schools are also the most pervasive in hip hop culture (I'm not being racist it's just a part of the demographic). The kids also see these schools as an oasis long away from their underprivileged upbringing in Nola. Many just want to GTFO of Nola and LSU's proximity isn't far enough away to satisfy that want. That, coupled with the non-established loyalty to LSU, leads them to follow these "faux" dreams out of state.

Frank Wilson is an invaluable member of our staff at this time. But unfortunately even he can't overcome the above for every single kid we want from Nola.

Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31778 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:00 am to
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The OP is not mistaken. I agree with the point he's trying to make which is that the inner city Nola kids don't come up dreaming of playing for LSU, nor is there any loyalty in their family to LSU unless their parents attended LSU (e.g. Beckham). Most of these kids grow up dreaming of playing for "flashy" schools like Miami, Fla. State, USC, etc. because they see those schools as the "cool place to be". Coincidentally, these schools are also the most pervasive in hip hop culture (I'm not being racist it's just a part of the demographic). The kids also see these schools as an oasis long away from their underprivileged upbringing in Nola. Many just want to GTFO of Nola and LSU's proximity isn't far enough away to satisfy that want. That, coupled with the non-established loyalty to LSU, leads them to follow these "faux" dreams out of state.

Frank Wilson is an invaluable member of our staff at this time. But unfortunately even he can't overcome the above for every single kid we want from Nola.


someone gets it
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7168 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:00 am to
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holy fricking shite.

quote:
Hill was a Baton Rouge kid.



De La Salle is on St. Charles Ave.

quote:
Carr is not New Orleans.



Algiers is Orleans Parish, therefore it's New Orleans.


Thought he was referring to RB Hill and not DE Hill.

Karr is not New Orleans means there are many other schools in New Orleans (and metro area) than just Karr.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7168 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:04 am to
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this proves to me that not many of you know jack shite about LSU football beyond 2007.


Now just piss off. M. Hill was a 2000 recruit. That is almost ancient history in college football terms.

You might as well dig into the 80s and 90s.

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