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re: Kyle Parker is really good

Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:56 pm to
the fact that he's a 3 star is mind boggling
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3431 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 12:47 am to
Kid plays like "Deebo Samuels"
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/20/22 at 5:46 am to
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Every stat line I see is just pure insanity. Doing it against some really good competition too.


He’s not even the leading receiver on his own team either

At least according to the article I read a couple weeks ago.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/20/22 at 7:58 am to
When someone made a thread asking, who would be your favorite recruit for this class? I picked Kyle Parker.
Posted by SlidellTiger
Madisonville, La
Member since Jan 2004
1519 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 8:16 am to
Very talented recruit with great potential. Hope he can catch punts - upgrade our punt return game quickly
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15565 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 8:23 am to
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Anyone know why he's not rated better?


Most likely bc of the 5'10", 175 measurables listed on 24/7.

Also, his listed 10.89 100m time translates to a 4.54 forty on that MileSplitUSA track time conversion website.

Too bad there's not a ranking for agility, quickness, & RAC vision bc he looks like a playmaker.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284879 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 9:20 am to
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He’s not even the leading receiver on his own team either


They have three other D1 WRs.

Jaxson lavender, Parker Livingstone (jr) & daylan mccutcheon (sop)

Parker had 1,091 rec. yards, 19 total TD this year. I think lavender is their top guy tho
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8886 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 11:09 am to
He looks to be close to 6’ to me. And he’s got some serious quicks and easily blows by people I gotta think he’s in the 4.4 range.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/20/22 at 11:34 am to
A verified 10.89 is prob 90% percentile for a HS Wr. That is very fast


And he is not huge but this isn’t 175 either. He’s built like an Oklahoma or Ohio St WR.

Posted by Buga
Member since Dec 2013
1507 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Looked like a Chase clone in that clip


It’s uncanny.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50391 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 3:06 pm to
Better than boutte
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8996 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 6:14 pm to
Look kinda like Chase against KC last year when he just blew by everybody.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53534 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:03 am to
Texas is about to make their final play for him coming up.


Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1972 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 9:37 am to
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He looks really good. Anyone know why he's not rated better?



This really gets into the larger discussion of what recruiting rankings do reflect versus what they should reflect. I'll explain...



Recruiting rankings, very obviously, came into existence for the purpose of rating/projecting how good HS kids would be as college players. As the industry grew and became more competitive between outlets, outlets wanted a metric by which to measure the accuracy of their rankings--so that they could reasonably claim superiority to other outlets.



But for obvious reasons, it's tough to come up with an objective metric. College stats aren't a great metric, because competition level varies, surrounding talent varies, and not everything is easily measured on the stat sheet. Awards and accolades aren't great for similar reasons--e.g. nobody really thinks the random G5 all-american EDGE player who gets the honor cause he racked up numbers against shitty competition is actually better than, say, Will Anderson.


So what these outlets (or, to be specific, 247 in particular) landed on as the most "objective" metric by which to gauge their rankings was the NFL draft. The draft is an efficient market with 32 teams all staking their own best interests on their evaluations. In other words, it's not biased--it may not be perfect, but it's about as objective an indicator of talent as you're gonna get.


The problem is that, when you're judging the accuracy of your rankings based on the NFL draft, you're going to begin to base the rankings themselves on the NFL draft--which, though about as good a single proxy as there is, still isn't a perfect measure of the question "how good was this player in college?".



Accordingly, guys like Kyle Parker, who project to be better as college players than their eventual draft stock would indicate, get "underranked". He's small for his position--smaller than usually gets drafted super high--so he winds up with a lower recruiting ranking than he should probably have. Will Campbell, believe it or not, is another example of this: His arm-length is a little bit below the typical thresholds for what NFL teams look for in a 1st round tackle, so even though he probably projected as one of the 32 best *college players* in his recruiting class, he missed 5* status (because the 32 5*s are essentially the guys that 247 is pegging as future first-round picks).


On the one hand, it's kind of dumb--ideally, they should be rating kids purely based on how good they project to be as college players. That's clearly what everyone is interested in. But on the other hand, I understand using the NFL draft as your measuring stick for accuracy--it's not perfect, for all the reasons listed, but it's still about as good a single metric as you're gonna get. Just one of those things.



tl;dr - recruiting services gauge the accuracy of their ratings via the NFL draft. Accordingly, recruiting rankings lean more towards "future NFL prospect rankings" than "future college player rankings". Parker is a kid who projects better as a college player than an NFL prospect, so he gets ranked lower than he should.
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 9:40 am
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