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re: Kamari Wilson at Florida today
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:06 pm to luciouslou
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:06 pm to luciouslou
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But I absolutely don't understand firing Raymond. That was a mistake
you probably haven't ever run a company...or been in a leadership role where you have to create change
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:13 pm to luciouslou
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Come on man. He may be the best recruiter in the country
The recruiter ranking say otherwise.
In last couple of yrs it seems Corey missed out on primary targets more than hes secured them.
Looked at 247 recruiter recruiter rankings from 2013 forward. Heres his numbers:
2022 - 30th in SEC, 82nd nationally
2021 - 28 SEC, 70 nationally
2020 - 6 SEC, 14 nationally
2019 - 7 SEC, 13 nationally
2018 - 19 SEC, 52 nationally
2017 - 32 SEC, 76 nationally
2016 - 5 SEC, 87 nationally
2015 - 37 SEC, 81 nationally
2014 - 5 SEC, 6 nationally
2013 - 27 SEC, 58 nationally
Only 1 of those yrs, 2020, was he the highest rated recruiter on LSU's staff.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:19 pm to landmanner
Hey man, stop that. That doesn't fit the narrative here.
Sometimes I really wonder what the hell some of these folks are smoking?
Sometimes I really wonder what the hell some of these folks are smoking?
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:36 pm to luciouslou
quote:Ah yes, the magic of getting a guy on a visit only to watch him commit to Georgia.
Looks like Raymond is already pulling his magic.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:48 pm to landmanner
And 2020 wasn’t hard to recruit as all these kids wanted to come here off the NC season
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:02 pm to luciouslou
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luciouslou
Let me help you to understand why Raymond is no longer at LSU. Have you seen his db’s the last two years?!? Brian Kelly evaluated his performance from the last two years and cut bait. Pretty simple.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:07 pm to luciouslou
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Come on man. He may be the best recruiter in the country
No I think we have that guy now and that’s Frank Wilson
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:16 pm to luciouslou
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He may be the best recruiter in the country
Pump the brakes. He is not and has never been the best in the country. He's been near the top a year or two when LA was pretty stacked, but this is just revisionist history.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:25 pm to landmanner
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The recruiter ranking say otherwise
Recruiting is about more than stars. It’s identifying and evaluating guys with certain attributes and potential to be unlocked and Corey is beyond elite at that.
You can talk about the culture change and he needed to go and all that nonsense, but as a coach/recruiter, he is one of the tops.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:34 pm to luciouslou
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LSU was always in his top schools. Everybody has us in his final 4
We were just a hat on the table and you know it.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:34 pm to The Pirate King
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It’s identifying and evaluating guys with certain attributes and potential to be unlocked and Corey is beyond elite at that.
You can talk about the culture change and he needed to go and all that nonsense, but as a coach/recruiter, he is one of the tops
For every Flott/McGlothern there is an Ed Paris/Kevin Tolliver on Corey's list of recruits.
I think he is a good coach. I don't think he is a great coach. I think he is a great recruiter. I don't think he is an elite recruiter.
The problem on this board right now, is a large contingent of fans saw CR heading to Florida and acted like LSU is now going to go down in flames, which isn't the case. I think most fans would have been happy to keep CR on staff, but the main person who makes that decision didn't think CR was the right person for that job on this staff for whatever reason. The reality is CR will be fine at Florida and do what he is supposed to do and get paid. LSU and CBK will move forward and do what their supposed to do and be fine.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:34 pm to luciouslou
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I absolutely don't understand firing Raymond. That was a mistake
Patience my friend, patience.............
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:35 pm to The Pirate King
I've started a couple threads about LSU struggling to get the top DBs the past few years. I even stated that I loved the effort of Flott and others, but why were we getting guys who couldn't really play SEC football for years (Flott came in at about 150 pounds). My Gosh, I got downvoted, beaten up, etc. But, unfortunately I was correct in my assessment. He needed to go so we can regain our DBU level of recruitment and development...
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:51 pm to luciouslou
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But I absolutely don't understand firing Raymond. That was a mistake
Pretty even trade-off IMO when we got Frank Wilson.
Raymond was "ok" as a coach, not great.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 3:54 pm to The Pirate King
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can talk about the culture change and he needed to go and all that nonsense, but as a coach/recruiter, he is one of the tops.
You think the culture doesn’t need an overhaul ? I knew you loved Orgeron more than LSU but damn
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:10 pm to luciouslou
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I have no obsession with Napier. Do think he's a good coach. But I absolutely don't understand firing Raymond. That was a mistake
Are you spending hours a day with BK? Do you know what went into His decision of cutting him when you have no specific details or 1st hand knowledge of the whys of this decision? This is such a silly statement.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:20 pm to luciouslou
Are you an LSU fan or actually a USL fan pissed off because LSU didn't want Billy Napier?
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:24 pm to luciouslou
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He may be the best recruiter in the country
ROFLMFAO
I can name 25 better off the top of my head.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:35 pm to luciouslou
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I have no obsession with Napier. Do think he's a good coach. But I absolutely don't understand firing Raymond. That was a mistake
Says you. A nobody on a message board. I'll trust the actual head coach who has been in the business 40 years.
The ego on you. Amazing.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:36 pm to luciouslou
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Looks like Raymond is already pulling his magic.
Finishing second for Florida dbs?
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