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John Emery and the Georgia RB Glut

Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by ROPO
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:54 am
In reading SI own up to all of the things they got wrong, I thought #7 was very interesting. They were anointing Swift as a breakout player but now admit that in the crowded Georgia RB room, he's not getting enough opportunities. This will be compounded next season when Z. White returns.

I'm sure Emery thinks he is so good he'll be able to brush all of those guys aside but still. LSU is headed in the right direction. We just dominated Georgia. Emery will be a stud in Tiger Stadium and O is proving that we can and will be competing with Bama and Georgia. There is no need to leave the state.

See #7
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61592 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:59 am to
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They were anointing Swift as a breakout player but now admit that in the crowded Georgia RB room, he's not getting enough opportunities.


Georgia fans swear this isn't a problem...then they'll tell you that Swift just wasn't getting carries because they were playing in blowout games...then they will tell you that it's because Swift has had a groin injury that has lingered for 7 months...

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This will be compounded next season when Z. White returns.



Correct. And, you have Dalvin Cook's brother whose willingness to sit by as a freshman is going to evolve into a desire and demand to get carries.

And, you have Swift in his money year whose future depends on getting carries.

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I'm sure Emery thinks he is so good he'll be able to brush all of those guys aside but still. LSU is headed in the right direction. We just dominated Georgia. Emery will be a stud in Tiger Stadium and O is proving that we can and will be competing with Bama and Georgia. There is no need to leave the state.


I've read enough of Emery to assume that he's a good kid. He may want to go to another school, or go out of state. If that's the case, I wish him the best. But, I don't think there is any way he goes to Georgia unless he's just really, really dumb. It would be doing something that is not in your best interest. Having said that, if he's not going to go to LSU, and he's going to stay in the SEC, I hope he ends up at Georgia.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76635 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:07 am to
Agreed. We definitely do not want him at Bama.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:17 am to
You know there is a point to where too much RB rotation is detrimental to the continuity of the backfield. Some RBs need 10-15 carries just to get into a groove. Swift seems like that type of back but splitting time with all the talented RBs that UGA and the opportunity for each RB to show their skills in the game becomes few and far between. There is a balance and it is nice to see RBs showcase themselves not only for the fans but the NFL (because that translates into $$$$). If not it can be the difference between being drafted in rounds 1-2 or 3-4.

With Harris on board adding Emery to the mix with CEH and Curry for depth is really a nice mix. I hope it happens.
Posted by PeakyeffinBlinder
Birmingham, England
Member since Sep 2018
83 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:19 am to
They keep talking about Swift, but I can't remember LSU going against a better back than Holyfield in the last few years.

That kids bad runs were 6-7 yards with 4 people hanging on him. Then, if he got outside, he had Guice type speed (not quite LF) .

Swift will continue to get less carries that EH if I'm a Georgia coach.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:25 am to
Swift is really shifty and will give most defenses nightmares. Holyfield brings more to the table and will have more success against good defenses, IMO.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61592 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:54 am to
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That kids bad runs were 6-7 yards with 4 people hanging on him. Then, if he got outside, he had Guice type speed (not quite LF) .

Swift will continue to get less carries that EH if I'm a Georgia coach.



Holyfield was very good against LSU, but Swift is an elite talent. My guess is that you are basing this off of 7 carries in a single game.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:37 pm to
So is this where we divert away from the "afraid of competition" takes that were made about Marcus Banks, among many others?

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61592 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:42 pm to
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So is this where we divert away from the "afraid of competition" takes that were made about Marcus Banks, among many others?



huh?
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:44 pm to
When guys don't come here due to crowded positions, we say he's afraid of competition...when they do go to situations like UGA has, he's dumb.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:53 pm to
It's most often said because of other recruits in a class at a particular position, not because of an established, totally stacked depth chart.

For example, did anyone say that about Caden Sterns last year when it looked like our depth at safety was ridiculous and he'd have a hard time getting any playing time?

Not to my recollection. But it's often said about players who are worried about how many players we're taking at a certain position in the same class. And sometimes, it's said about quarterbacks who are a year apart.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:54 pm to
Situations like Georgia are exceptional crowded. Holyfield 4* #6 RB 2016, Swift 5* #3/4 RB 2017, White 5* #1 RB 2018, Cook 4* #3 APB/RB 2018. Where does John Emery fit in with that lineup of RBs?
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:59 pm to
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It's most often said because of other recruits in a class at a particular position, not because of an established, totally stacked depth chart.


I've been around here for a while...guaranteed someone will say it every time...depth chart or otherwise. Doesn't matter.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Situations like Georgia are exceptional crowded. Holyfield 4* #6 RB 2016, Swift 5* #3/4 RB 2017, White 5* #1 RB 2018, Cook 4* #3 APB/RB 2018. Where does John Emery fit in with that lineup of RBs?


I agree it's crowded. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. If he signs with UGA, you got to respect that he's not afraid of competition.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:06 pm to
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You know there is a point to where too much RB rotation is detrimental to the continuity of the backfield. Some RBs need 10-15 carries just to get into a groove


Coaches are now selling recruits on the idea of not running them into the ground, saving their tread for the NFL.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:08 pm to
It is hypocritical. But at the same time, from a business standpoint, Georgia is a bad place to go. LSU, Florida, and aTm are probably his best landing spots for an SEC school. These schools have good enough teams, good enough oline, good enough RBs to compliment him, and good enough coaching to shine. At Georgia, unless he turns out to be Leonard Fournette 2.0, he will not get enough meaningful snaps until he is a junior/senior to really help his draft stock.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:08 pm to
17-18 year olds are not always the smartest.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13034 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:14 pm to
Emery may have reasons he wants to go out of state and it's just his preference. No argument, if that is the case.
That he would want to go to Georgia under these circumstances is really puzzling.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:33 pm to
I agree fully.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Coaches are now selling recruits on the idea of not running them into the ground, saving their tread for the NFL.

Right, and that's smart, but there's a big difference between saving tread for the NFL, and barely getting to play.

Georgia's leader in carries this year is only getting 10/game. Their three other top running backs are getting 9, 5 and 4 carries per game.

If I'm a running back looking for the best situation, I want to go somewhere where the top back is getting around 15 carries and the next guy is getting 10-15. This is what Georgia did last year with Chubb (14+) and Michele (11), and more or less what LSU is doing with Brosette and CEH this year.
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