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re: Jimmy D Smith @JimmyDetail LSU commitment prediction due up shortly (Updated)
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:07 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:07 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Almost positive it's Taylor Hamm.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:28 am to Purple with Gold
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Purple with Gold
Wow bro pump the brakes. You sound like a little women in the middle of one of her little hissy fits. lol. Its ok nobody gets this stuff 100% correct.
Thanks Jimmy you Shea and Sonny do a great job keep up the great work.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:08 am to Seeker
Guy, the main reason I read it now is to know what actually occured. He seems to specialize in revisionist predictions to make himself look better.
I'm not acting like anything BTW. I'm simply stating historical facts about his predictions. Let the chips fall where they may after that.
For the record, here is the real knock on JS. I hope LSU gets every single prospect they want and cherry pick the entire class. But have you noticed his trend of inaccuracy...I have. Tell me the last time he predicted LSU to NOT get a guy and LSU gets him. I can't remember one single instance of that. So my point is he is far too optimistic about LSU signing someone and gets LSU fans hopes up. Missing is one thing and no one is perfect, I grant you that. But you need to explain to everyone then why he misses always in the same direction...i.e. he says LSU and another school gets the guy, never the other way around.
I'm not acting like anything BTW. I'm simply stating historical facts about his predictions. Let the chips fall where they may after that.
For the record, here is the real knock on JS. I hope LSU gets every single prospect they want and cherry pick the entire class. But have you noticed his trend of inaccuracy...I have. Tell me the last time he predicted LSU to NOT get a guy and LSU gets him. I can't remember one single instance of that. So my point is he is far too optimistic about LSU signing someone and gets LSU fans hopes up. Missing is one thing and no one is perfect, I grant you that. But you need to explain to everyone then why he misses always in the same direction...i.e. he says LSU and another school gets the guy, never the other way around.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:13 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Almost positive it's Taylor Hamm
If I was Taylor Hamm, I would currently have the expected A&M signing class at 326 solid verbals
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:13 am to Purple with Gold
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But you need to explain to everyone then why he misses always in the same direction...i.e. he says LSU and another school gets the guy, never the other way around.
pretty simple explanation
all of his sources are from LSU perspective, so of course they are going to tell him positives towards LSU
you seem really butthurt about all of this
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:15 am to Purple with Gold
then why read his articles? Nobody forces anyone to read his articles. If it works you up so much, then go somewhere else for information.
I ready his stuff and sure he misses on guys. But, it doesn't get me mad at him when he's wrong. I'm disappointed, but I don't hold him personally responsible for missing on guys. He's a writer asked for his opinion and he gives it.
I ready his stuff and sure he misses on guys. But, it doesn't get me mad at him when he's wrong. I'm disappointed, but I don't hold him personally responsible for missing on guys. He's a writer asked for his opinion and he gives it.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:18 am to Salmon
Funny, how suddenly motivation or personal insults are the focus towards me and not his actual record. That pretty much says it all. I do agree with one thing you said and that is what I'm talking about. "His sources are from LSU perspective"...exactly correct. That is why their bias keeps showing in his predictions and once again, he never misses in the other direction where LSU gets someone he said would go elsewhere. I thought that accurate information was the goal. People handle the "wish list" all the time here...that is not needed from him IMO.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:21 am to Purple with Gold
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I thought that accurate information was the goal.
how would he know it wasn't accurate if he is being told the same thing by multiple people?
and hell, he is predicting 18 year olds, would you want to predict what 18 year olds are going to do? I know I wouldn't.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:26 am to Purple with Gold
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...that is not needed from him IMO.
Then don't fricking read it. I've taken shots at Jimmy in the past too, but this is his damn job. You've written a novel in this thread to explain just how little you value his opinion.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:27 am to Salmon
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pretty simple explanation
all of his sources are from LSU perspective, so of course they are going to tell him positives towards LSU
THIS! That's why you read an LSU guy's prediction and then look at other's schools prediction. Then judge everything at the same time. It's a big picture.
You'll never get a completely unbiased prediction from an "LSU" guy. That's why recruiting is fun. It's half recruiting, half entertainment.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:37 am to Duckie
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That's why recruiting is fun
not for me
Idk why I still follow it TBH, it does nothing but raise my blood pressure
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:41 am to Duckie
the recruits don't know where they are going so no one will be 100% correct. hence the word "prediction" and not the word "fact". nfl guys predict draft picks all the time and they are never correct all the time.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:50 am to cas4t
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Idk why I still follow it TBH, it does nothing but raise my blood pressure
like anything else it's addictive.
You got to take the good with the bad to truly enjoy the good.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:43 am to Duckie
Freaking Jimmy Smith !
Who does he think he is to give his INFORMED opinion ?
Do these people not realize I offer a far-superior UNINFORMED opinion?
Sheeeshhhh....
Who does he think he is to give his INFORMED opinion ?
Do these people not realize I offer a far-superior UNINFORMED opinion?
Sheeeshhhh....
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:55 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Then don't fricking read it
Hmmm, interesting comment. Might I suggest then you do the same with my posts.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:05 am to Duckie
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You'll never get a completely unbiased prediction from an "LSU" guy. That's why recruiting is fun. It's half recruiting, half entertainment.
Actually, it used to be fun for me to follow recruiting but since the umpteen decommits all the time, the social media garbage put out by everyone, not much fun anymore for me.
So now, the main reason I follow recruiting is for one simple reason...character evaluation/academic risk of the potential LSU players. Kevin Toliver for example has kept his word to LSU for like 2 years. How much character does that show? Then, you have a guy like R Robinson...no problem with his character to my knowledge but are you shocked he is an academic casualty after less than 2 years at LSU? Didn't he qualify to even play at LSU exactly 1 day before the 2013 season started due to questionable academics. Think back on the players who have played at LSU and their character...good and bad. Most of that was hinted out during their recruitment and how they handled it.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:17 am to Purple with Gold
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So now, the main reason I follow recruiting is for one simple reason...character evaluation/academic risk of the potential LSU players. Kevin Toliver for example has kept his word to LSU for like 2 years. How much character does that show? Then, you have a guy like R Robinson...no problem with his character to my knowledge but are you shocked he is an academic casualty after less than 2 years at LSU? Didn't he qualify to even play at LSU exactly 1 day before the 2013 season started due to questionable academics. Think back on the players who have played at LSU and their character...good and bad. Most of that was hinted out during their recruitment and how they handled it.
meh. Recruiting is three sided.
Kids have their priorities
Universities have their priorities
Fans have their priorities
Everyone is doing what is in their best interest. Just as in life.
Now, just some advice/opinion here...It seems you follow recruiting just so you can have a negative opinion on things/kids/football. That doesn't sound very fun.
My advice is to have fun with it. We're LSU fans, dude! We get to sit back and watch an incredible football program recruit the best players in the country.
However, if you came here to judge football players (not typically the greatest character kids) and see if they display some sort of higher moral ground than the general public, you're not gonna have a great time.
Also, jsut because a kid commits early doesn't necessarily mean they have higher morals than another. They're kids. They're just now starting to really figure things out. Cut them some slack. Think about yourself when you were 17.
So, sit back and enjoy the ride.
Here's a song just for recruiting too! It's calming.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 11:49 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:29 pm to Duckie
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Now, just some advice/opinion here...It seems you follow recruiting just so you can have a negative opinion on things/kids/football. That doesn't sound very fun. ....
...Also, jsut because a kid commits early doesn't necessarily mean they have higher morals than another. They're kids. They're just now starting to really figure things out. Cut them some slack. Think about yourself when you were 17.
Actually on your first point quoted, I follow it for exactly the opposite reason you specified. I follow it to try to gauge as the late Bum Phillips used to say "who is going to hold on to the rope". That is where character comes in and once again, I can judge character pretty well by the way a prospect tells the truth during the process. That does not mean he can't be torn between multiple schools but we have all seen blatant lies.
Tying in to your second point, I assume you remember what Mike Detillier said about Gerald Willis. "I kept in contact with him during his recruitment and was shocked when he announced for Florida. At no time did he remotely suggest that Florida was a big player for him and in fact told me how much he looked forward to being at LSU." Soooo, one of 2 things occured didn't it? 1) Mike Detillier was lying which I doubt or 2) Gerald Willis was. And wasn't it Gerald Willis who was kicked out of the Florida-FSU game by cheap shotting J Winston on the sidelines...and Willis wasn't even in the game at the time. If you honestly think that character can't be measured at 17 or 18 years old, then you and I will just disagree on that one.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:37 pm to Purple with Gold
I never said you 'can't' judge character of an 18 year old. I am saying a lot is going on behind the scenes and none of us really know the full picture.
Unless you're privy to that info, then I wouldn't judge 'most' kids based on quotes or actions without taking everything into consideration.
But, it's whatever, you have a right to your opinion and I am happy to have your input.
Have a great day.
Unless you're privy to that info, then I wouldn't judge 'most' kids based on quotes or actions without taking everything into consideration.
But, it's whatever, you have a right to your opinion and I am happy to have your input.
Have a great day.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:40 pm to Purple with Gold
I wish your posts were done with invisible font.
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