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re: Jeffrey Carter 4* CB flips from A&M to Bama

Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by the obvious one
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
524 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:24 pm to
The current limit of 25 new scholarships (or financial aid agreements) per academic year became an absolute limit, eliminating the oversigning phenomenon.

15.5.6 Football Limitations.
15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS] There shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1) and an annual limit of 85 on the total number of counters (including initial counters) in football at each institution.

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Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:33 pm to
Keep reading. There's a section that clearly states you can count guys enrolling in January in the current class or the next class. This is what is commonly referred to as "backcounting".

The 25 player limit went into effect many years ago.

It's dumb we're still having this conversation. Just look at last year's signing classes and see all the teams that took more than 25 guys. Or just wait until February and see how many this year sign over 25. I guarantee you Alabama will be one of them.
Posted by lafayettelsu
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2016
264 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:39 pm to
They had 22 commits laat year, so they can take 28 this year
Posted by the obvious one
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
524 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Keep reading.
I could very easily be incorrect. What section is this located in? I thought that back counting was removed.
I have no comment on grey shirts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261684 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:04 pm to
Typical Bama shite. These kids probably told Bama staff long ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261684 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:05 pm to
Jimbo s lost two in the past week to Saban
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63551 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

They are just deep at every position including the lines. No team can match that kind of depth. They rotate 5 star guys while we rotate 3 star guys.


We've played teams that don't even begin with 3* guys and still got handled (Wisconsin and Troy come to mind). Coaching is a factor and can equalize some of the talent gap.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:51 pm to
I don't remember what section it's in, but it's definitely in there.

Nothing I commented on has anything to do with greyshirting. In GS, the kid pays his own way and doesn't actually sign until the following year. I don't think the ncaa could ever eliminate this. If a kid wants to, and is capable of paying their own way in order to go wherever they want, why should the governing body have a say in that?
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:00 pm to
I want rebels and usurpers..guys who want to take down Darth Vader and not join the evil empire. There are great athletes with simple minds and followers. We need great athletes who think with their own minds and want to be a part of a new something special. They are out there..got to grab them before A&M, UGA, UF, Oky, Texass, USC, TheOSU etc. etc. get them!
Posted by 1723lale
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2222 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:37 pm to
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No, this
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:27 am
Posted by GeauxTiger4life
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
271 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:20 pm to
Ale Kaho transfer to Alabama this year. He should count toward their 2018 signing class correct? If so they leave them signing 27.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:31 pm to
He's listed in their 22 from 2018

247
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Yeah I get it... Kids don't want to earn it by helping build a program. They just want to ride the success of a program already championship caliber.


What the frick kind of thinking is this? That's like declining a job from the top employer in your field to join the 10th best employer in order to climb the ranks - a decision no adult actually makes if given the choice.

Look, Alabama has been beaten by less talented teams every year but this one. There is no reason we can't be the team to do it, but shitting on kids for making a decision every adult would make is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted by GeauxTiger4life
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
271 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:36 pm to
Oh ok! Thanks for pointing it out. Didn't realize it
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Oh ok! Thanks for pointing it out. Didn't realize it

No problem, but checking their 247 made me look further into their numbers and I think their number actually is 27.

In 2017, they had 29 commitments, but famously told one of them, Jarez Parks, on NSD he would have to grayshirt because they didn't have room. So, he actually signed last December and should count towards their 2018 class, pushing that number to 23 and only giving them 2 extra spots this year.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
97080 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:19 am to
What ever happened to that CB from Houston named Marcus that was committed to us then decommitted after a trip to Bama?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:27 am to
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What ever happened to that CB from Houston named Marcus that was committed to us then decommitted after a trip to Bama?

Marcus Banks. He's probably ending up at A&M.

He might have jumped the gun decommitting thinking he was a take for Bama, and they told him they didn't have room yet, or he knew he wasn't a take for them yet and decided he'd prefer A&M anyway and went ahead and let us know relatively early in the process.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:42 am to
i really dont understand this either...in one breath they are decommitting and the very same breath committing to bama...When players we want decomit from one school we speculate for a few days/weeks until they commit to us
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:47 am to
Dreshun Miller decided to go to WVU over A&M, too. Their DB class is THIN again
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38136 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:48 am to
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Dreshun Miller decided to go to WVU over A&M, too. Their DB class is THIN again


Saw this on 247 but there's no link. You got one?
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