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re: If you release a Top 5 after you verbal, then you are not committed
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:59 pm to Rouge
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:59 pm to Rouge
This is why I loved the way Saivion Smith handled his recruitment. Once he said he was committed, that was a wrap and he didn't want to hear about anything but Tigers.
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:20 pm to Rouge
I agree, it's stupid to commit then a couple weeks later release your top 5. Either you're committed or you're trolling. Make your mind up there are other fish in the sea!
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:31 pm to ExpoTiger
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Makes no sense but if the coaches think it's ok to take his commitment then whatever. They know better than we do that nothing is written in stone until the ink dries
It's early. But if you are telling coaches your are committed and then sign somewhere else, it screws over the school.
In return if the coaches have to protect them selves from that, then that's how you end up having to pull schollies, offer grey shirts. Teams end up with too many kids and not enough schollies.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:47 pm to dgnx6
He's just seeking attention. When he came out Livonia he didn't have this type of spotlight. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for him and he's just seeking tv time. I'm from same town as him and If he wants to be a tiger great. If not then bye bye. Good player but I hope his head isn't getting to him
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:17 pm to ExpoTiger
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I don't understand him committing. Why commit and then talk about a top 5 not even a month later?
1 he misses the attention. 2. he did not have the clarity to make a decision and stay with it.
I long for the day when a kid can sign when he decides. firm. that day.
any day. no take backs.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:10 am to zach.wlkr
quote:Still amazed that we pulled that kid. Has the most honeybadger like HS film that I've seen.
This is why I loved the way Saivion Smith handled his recruitment. Once he said he was committed, that was a wrap and he didn't want to hear about anything but Tigers.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 5:31 am to Rouge
I guess that we will just have to be satisfied with LSU being his leader
Posted on 6/14/16 at 6:07 am to SHBlake79
How can there be so many people that post on the Recruiting Board that are so clearly uncomfortable with the way Recruiting works nowadays.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:21 am to GFunk
Because LSU is an elite program and recruiting is part of it. I like recruiting from the angle of knowing where these kids come from, watching them develop and everything that goes into that. Not the ridiculous shot show of sad grown men begging and praising 16-18 year olds. I'm glad it's grown because more players get opportunities that they might not have had to play ball and or get a degree but there we have created a slippery slope
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:27 am to GFunk
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How can there be so many people that post on the Recruiting Board that are so clearly uncomfortable with the way Recruiting works nowadays.
This and this is such a pointless thread. I guess any commit that visits another school as well is not committed because why visit another school when you're committed to a school already? It's just the way recruiting is today, and you're blaming the wrong people.
Don't blame the kids, blame ESPN, blame all the recruiting sites, blame message board sites like this, blame the shoe company-sponsored events and All-American games that put these kids in the spotlight constantly. Anyone that says they wouldn't act like this at the age of 16-18 is only lying to themselves
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:10 am to Rouge
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If you release a Top 5 after you verbal, then you are not committed
You are right.
Why is this important?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:32 am to GeauxAggie972
I think the point more or less is that, you have kids that don't do this just as much as you have kids that do. There are plenty of kids that take visits after commitments but they do not necessarily release a top 5 after a commitment. A good example would be Kevin Tolliver. Remained committed to LSU after his commitment and yes he took visits but he never released a "Top 8" or "Top 5" after he committed. For this reason he has a lot of respect from the fans, more so than someone who commits and then releases a list of top schools. And there is no point in pointing blame because it falls equal on society today as well as the kid. You still performed the action so you have to share some of the blame.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:53 am to GeauxAggie972
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This and this is such a pointless thread. I guess any commit that visits another school as well is not committed because why visit another school when you're committed to a school already? It's just the way recruiting is today, and you're blaming the wrong people.
Don't blame the kids, blame ESPN, blame all the recruiting sites, blame message board sites like this, blame the shoe company-sponsored events and All-American games that put these kids in the spotlight constantly. Anyone that says they wouldn't act like this at the age of 16-18 is only lying to themselves
Who is blaming a kid for the existence of recruiting? He's is still a sentient person. He is responsible for his actions. We aren't all exempt from acting poorly because of social traps and temptation. It sure as hell isnt the fault of a message board lol. If anything it's the fault of parents for not PARENTING. It's a parents job to guide children thru the minefield of life. Kids in the spotlight usually need even more guidance. It would be great if society took some part in that guidance but so much for that. If it isn't profitable it's pretty unlikely to happen. There are more important things to blame shoe companies and corporations for other than tge recruiting circus. Society in general is pretty gross now. However, Not all 16-17 year olds act like buffoons regardless of how much attention they recieve. Some people are grounded so the assumption that people are all the same and will behave the same no matter how they are praised is not reality. I'm not saying that the parties you mentioned aren't part of the equation but it's way past time to stop removing responsibility from the kids themselves and their parents plain and simple. We want to blame everyone but people for their own actions. There's no grown arse person with a lick of sense in this kids life that can tell him what he did doesn't make sense? Don't know a single thing about this kid fwiw. May be a great kid. This isn't a serious offense in the grand scheme but there is kind of a moral spectrum of sorts and people fall somewhere on that spectrum depending on many factors. A good example is Savion. It's hard not to appreciate the quality in a young guy like him with lots of options, to make his decision and never waver or lead anyone. It also isn't the deciding factor of whether he is a better person than Guidry or will be a better human being in life. I'm rambling. Sorry for the long post.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:29 pm to GeauxAggie972
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This and this is such a pointless thread. I guess any commit that visits another school as well is not committed because why visit another school when you're committed to a school already? It's just the way recruiting is today, and you're blaming the wrong people.
I really wouldn't mind if he did it down the road after committing early, but WTF dude, it's been like 3 weeks!!!
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Don't blame the kids, blame ESPN, blame all the recruiting sites, blame message board sites like this, blame the shoe company-sponsored events and All-American games that put these kids in the spotlight constantly. Anyone that says they wouldn't act like this at the age of 16-18 is only lying to themselves
I do blame the "kids". This guy is 19-20 years old. He decommitted from South Carolina in late April after committing in early March. He then committed to LSU less than a month later. Now after only 3 weeks committed to LSU, he's talking about a top 5???
I'm not and never have been an attention whore. I would have committed to LSU immediately if I was offered and ended my recruitment right there. Of course no way in hell do I expect him to do that or should do that. What I do expect is for none of this wishy washy crap after committing a few minutes ago. Like I said previously, September, October, November, etc, you decide this isn't working out, sure man do whatever you think you need to do.
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