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re: I think the staff dropped the ball on Laron Byrd

Posted on 8/3/08 at 12:30 am to
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 12:30 am to
You gotta play the damn game. Tim Pope looked damn good in summer workouts too but few know who the hell he is today. Know why? He never played the damn game.

Byrd has little competition at Miami so I expect he may play some but we are LONG way from intelligently discussing whether LSU made a mistake. Why? Because you gotta play the damn game.






Sorry to be so garrulous, had a few c-tails tonight.
Posted by Cajun61
Nawlins'
Member since Sep 2007
553 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 1:38 am to
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You gotta play the damn game
why?

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You gotta play the damn game
know why?

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You gotta play the damn game


Posted by LSU2107
Member since Mar 2004
261 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 5:17 am to
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oh just some cane fans on the national board are raving about him

Also heard Nic Harris may be an AA candidate for OU

He has 1 day of practice...also alot of kids are good enough to play for LSU in this state, yet get passed over. Wish he were here,yet hind sight is 20/20
Posted by Ancientiger
WADE, MS
Member since Feb 2006
1214 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 6:19 am to
What an intelligent thread-starter? Question a staff who has many, many years of actual recruiting experience AND has just led your team to the National Championship. Of course, you KNOW what should have been done better than they! You must be from Hahnville! Byrd was nowhere near getting a take by LSU; he was way down the list.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 8:29 am to
I have complete faith in our National Championship coaching staff and players. No one, and I mean NO ONE can predict how a player will do on the field in college football. To speculate is just that, SPECULATION. Discussion and speculation is what the board is all about, just don't carry it to the point of saying the coaching staff has screwed up when none of these guys are proven. Chill and see how things turn out. It's way to early to tell.
Posted by TheChamp
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Oct 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 9:30 am to
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What an intelligent thread-starter? Question a staff who has many, many years of actual recruiting experience AND has just led your team to the National Championship. Of course, you KNOW what should have been done better than they! You must be from Hahnville! Byrd was nowhere near getting a take by LSU; he was way down the list.


ah yes, the "never question the staff" approach. to say byrd was nowhere near a take is absurd and IMO completely discredits your post. the dude was thought by many to possibly be the best reciever in the state. and no i don't have a connection to hahnville. i was simply trying to get the feelings of other fans on mr. byrd and his recruitment. please try to contribute to the thread instead of flaming it with your coach worship.
Posted by TheChamp
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Oct 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 9:32 am to
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Discussion and speculation is what the board is all about, just don't carry it to the point of saying the coaching staff has screwed up when none of these guys are proven. Chill and see how things turn out. It's way to early to tell.


you guys completely miss the point of the thread. this is not a chicken little thread. it is a discussion on whether or not byrd should or shouldn't have gotten an offer. i have faith in the guys we have, but this being a message board i wanted to gage the interest of other tiger fans on the subject. if we want to wait until 4 years down the line to discuss a prospect this board wouldn't be any fun now would it?
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 9:41 am to
This thread in in the running for the RANT's most clueless thread of the Week Award.
Posted by TheChamp
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Oct 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 9:44 am to
how so? discussing whether or not we should have taken molton over byrd is not that off base.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75808 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 10:16 am to
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it is a discussion on whether or not byrd should or shouldn't have gotten an offer. i have faith in the guys we have, but this being a message board i wanted to gage the interest of other tiger fans on the subject.


As far as him being talented enough to get an offer I would say he probably was. As someone stated earlier, one of the main reasons he didnt get an offer was because he didnt show up for camp. This means that the LSU coaches didnt get a chance to evaluate him in person as much as they would have liked.
I think they chose to offer Molton instead of Byrd because they felt they had a better handle on what his abilities and potential were. And to them Byrd was a little more of an unknown because they weren't able to evaluate him as fully as they would have liked.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 10:20 am to
I just don't go there questioning the coaching staffs decision on what recruits they take. There are way too many other issues involved besides talent. There's grades, character, physical growth, family backgrounds, maturity, leadership skills, etc. The coaching staff is trying to put together the best team that will work best with our coaching staff and other players.

Get this, being from Texas I wanted Miles to hire Major Applewhite when he went to Bama. Man, was I dead wrong on that one. There were many Tiger fans who questioned that hiring. There are Tiger fans questioning the Co-Defensive Coordinators decision.

I think you are going a little strong. A better way to approach the subject is to ask how they make decisions like this. Of course the answer is we don't know aside from just their evaluation process. Damn, there's that word "process" again!

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161730 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 10:53 am to
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while mr. molton has not even made it to campus yet


false
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37575 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 10:58 am to
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What an intelligent thread-starter? Question a staff who has many, many years of actual recruiting experience AND has just led your team to the National Championship


It's a message board. It was a good topic to debate/discuss.

If we had it your way every topic would be-

"we are the best"
"our coaches are the best"
"Saban is a meanie"
"ESPN hates us"
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37575 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:00 am to
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how so? discussing whether or not we should have taken molton over byrd is not that off base.


It's Bad Cat, the guy still thinks John Brady is a great coach. Pay him no mind.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:15 am to
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how so? discussing whether or not we should have taken molton over byrd is not that


Besides your clueless opinions, what do you have to discuss? Nothing!
Posted by clhstrojans
Lockport
Member since Apr 2008
821 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:33 am to
Laron Byrd = SOFT

This guy is tremendously talented but he is soft. Basically most of his yards and td's came from jump balls over smaller db's. The other Hahnville receivers are really what made that offense go, but they don't get the publicity because they're not 6'3-6'4.

My team played him both JR & SOPH yr. He didn't do anything SOPH year, and JR year he did catch a TD. The next series he was laid out by our Safety going over the middle, and he short armed balls the rest of the game, had about a half dozen drops and only 1-2 more catches. That against a 5'6 CB in man to man. By the way, my team wasn't very good those two years.

We didn't play him as a senior but did see a couple of games, and again if your physical with him you can keep him quiet all night.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53057 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:37 am to
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I wish Molton would somehow become a star, because this has Big Mistake written all over it.


Huh...not so fast, my friend.

Not that signing Byrd would have been a mistake either. I was very impressed with P.J.'s accolades about Molton (he didn't say anything about latiger09 though....i'm still working on that)....#13 doesn't say much period, let alone just randomly heap praise somewhere. If he says a guy is a beast, then he is a beast.
Posted by sportsinfogeauxlsu
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
6300 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:40 am to
Did P.J. play against Byrd too?
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53057 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:44 am to
No, but I expect he knows him. Hahnville has some players that are friends with P.J. and so I'm sure they've met. I'll ask him, now that you mention it...what he thinks of comparing the two head-to-head. Most of these prospects watch a little film of the other studs. Or at least McKnight did. He wanted to see what the other blue-chips were about.
Posted by TheChamp
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Oct 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 8/3/08 at 11:46 am to
hey clean who did you feel was the better prospect coming out? some people on here refuse to admit that maybe, just maybe byrd was LSU material.

edit: in no way is this a flame to those of you who backed up your differing opinions with mine with substance.
This post was edited on 8/3/08 at 11:48 am
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