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I predict a massive shift in the coming years
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:58 am
In the past college football programs have had massive amounts of money that couldn't legally be paid to the players. As a result the emphasis on spending the money was on coaches and facilities that could attract top recruits.
In this new NIL dynamic I predict that coaches/recruiters/facilities are becoming less important compared to the players (think NFL). There will be higher emphasis on talent evaluation, roster management, and game day coaching.
I predict the days of a 10 year $100M HC contract are over. You will soon have players making as much or more than the Head Coach. Program coaches like Nick Saban will be a thing of the past. There is a reason he had limited success in the NFL. You can't really out program other NFL teams because of the draft and salary caps. NFL comes down to talent evaluation, roster management, and game day coaching to win one score games.
JMO
In this new NIL dynamic I predict that coaches/recruiters/facilities are becoming less important compared to the players (think NFL). There will be higher emphasis on talent evaluation, roster management, and game day coaching.
I predict the days of a 10 year $100M HC contract are over. You will soon have players making as much or more than the Head Coach. Program coaches like Nick Saban will be a thing of the past. There is a reason he had limited success in the NFL. You can't really out program other NFL teams because of the draft and salary caps. NFL comes down to talent evaluation, roster management, and game day coaching to win one score games.
JMO
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:04 am to jmaclsu
I predict buying players out in open and calling NIL will soon have stiff regulation and penalties
Reggie Bush lost his Heisman Trophy because a booster paid for parents to have housing to watch Reggie.
Now we learning about paying players who have not enrolled or earned a starting position
If the common fans doesn’t know you, there is no name image and likenesses
Reggie Bush lost his Heisman Trophy because a booster paid for parents to have housing to watch Reggie.
Now we learning about paying players who have not enrolled or earned a starting position
If the common fans doesn’t know you, there is no name image and likenesses
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:12 am to ApexTiger
NIL is a scam and nothing but illegal pay to play.
Nobody would even recognize these high school kids if they walked right in front of them on the street.
Nobody would even recognize these high school kids if they walked right in front of them on the street.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:12 am to ApexTiger
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If the common fans doesn’t know you, there is no name image and likenesses
If you are on a football team, you have a "recognizable" name and/or image. Forget regulating that, as the courts have already ruled on it.
The only way to put guardrails on this out of control process is to limit transferability and require sitting out a season after transfer for most cases. This will put the brakes on the yearly shuffling of players.
But something needs to be done, and the NCAA has proven to be ridiculously out of touch and moronic to not get in front of this. Maybe it will be left to the conferences to make the agreements among each other.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:16 am to BEATIGER
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NCAA has proven to be ridiculously out of touch and moronic to not get in front of this
As you can see with all of the court rulings, there was no getting in front of this.
The only thing the NCAA could do was delay the inevitable as long as possible, which they attempted to do. CFB will continue to eat itself from the inside for the $$, and people will continue to watch.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:16 am to jmaclsu
It is really simple. Players, coaches, and wins will flow wherever the money is. Yes, there will be outliers, but the concentration of teams at the top will follow the money.
Take SMU, they made a massive investment and it is just starting to pay off. If the AD and Coach can manage it, they will build a very good program. There is a ton of money in the DFW area.
You could see the same thing happen in other large metros areas as well. Everyone concentrates on the school and it's alumni. There is tremendous opportunity for schools in large metros to leverage all of the businesses to build a program, not just alumni.
The one thing LSU has RIGHT NOW is the brand. If LSU doesn't seize this moment, it will be lost.
Take SMU, they made a massive investment and it is just starting to pay off. If the AD and Coach can manage it, they will build a very good program. There is a ton of money in the DFW area.
You could see the same thing happen in other large metros areas as well. Everyone concentrates on the school and it's alumni. There is tremendous opportunity for schools in large metros to leverage all of the businesses to build a program, not just alumni.
The one thing LSU has RIGHT NOW is the brand. If LSU doesn't seize this moment, it will be lost.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:18 am to ApexTiger
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I predict buying players out in open and calling NIL will soon have stiff regulation and penalties
It is difficult to see how penalties and regulations can be put on NIL that wont be struck down by a court. A conference could limit the amount of money a school can offer a player but they cannot limit how much he can make outside of the school.
The best thing to happen would be to allow only one free transfer without sitting out. That would remove some of the leverage the players have.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:22 am to jmaclsu
players and coaches are not paid from the same pool of money. This is stupid.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:26 am to 904
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If the common fans doesn’t know you, there is no name image and likenesses
I disagree. The NCAA could have - and can - tighten up the transfer rules so as to limit the ability for yearly "free agency" like we have now. It's the only way to try and bring some level of constancy in player/team relationship instead of the chaos we have now of unlimited transferability and immediate playing time.
Only caveats would be when your coach that recruited you leaves, then you are open to transfer. Otherwise, you make a move, and it's at least a 2-season decision instead of year by year.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:29 am to Lester Earl
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players and coaches are not paid from the same pool of money. This is stupid.
How is most of BKs salary paid, the university or boosters?
How are coach buyouts paid, the university or boosters?
How are facility improvement paid, the university or boosters?
Where does the NIL money come from, the university or boosters?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:34 am to BEATIGER
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The NCAA could have - and can - tighten up the transfer rules so as to limit the ability for yearly "free agency" like we have now. It's the only way to try and bring some level of constancy in player/team relationship instead of the chaos we have now of unlimited transferability and immediate playing time.
I agree with this, but the coaches shouldn't be able to just up and leave either. NFL coaches can't just breech their contract and leave for another NFL team.
For Example
What the Broncos are giving the Saints for Sean Payton
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:34 am to jmaclsu
are those rhetorical questions or do you really not know?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:35 am to BEATIGER
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I disagree. The NCAA could have - and can - tighten up the transfer rules so as to limit the ability for yearly "free agency" like we have now.
I don't think they can and was under the impression that the courts would strike that down as well since it limits the mobility and earning potential of a player.
I also wish it was still the 1 year wait period except grad transfers and would solve some of the free agency issues but don't think it's possible anymore.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:46 am to Lester Earl
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are those rhetorical questions or do you really not know?
I am a TAF donor. I know.
Here is his contract. LSU pays $400,000 base per year. The rest "supplemental" comes from outside of the university through donations to the athletic department, etc. They are very much paid from "the same pool of money."
BK Contract
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:14 am to deathvalleytiger10
This quote from the SMU President pretty much sums up what a force they can be:
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SMU's chairman of the board, David Miller, fired his metaphorical six-shooter in the air when he explained how the program could go without television revenue for nine years: The money didn't matter to them. "It's a couple hundred million dollars," Miller told Yahoo. "I'm not losing sleep over it."
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