re: Has LSU dropped the Redemptorist RB charged with rape?

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no parents be crazy, and if you are shocked that a parent isn't happy with the situation you are out of touch with reality

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not shocked at all, but it was almost a month between the incident and the arrest being made. If this girl had been forced into the situation i am sure not as much time would have lapsed. But, parents find out something happened, girl changes story to place the guilt on the boys, thereby not getting in any trouble with her parents.

look at Kobe, for example, after a few months it came out that chick was just a straight up slut who had let other guys bust in her that same night.

I'm saying the girl told her parents it wasnt her idea to blow these two guys that they made her do it, but Im saying that is only what she told them after they found out it had happened.

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s he being charged with some sort of forcible/violent rape?

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Jeremy Hill and and a classmate were both arrested Wednesday and charged with Oral Sexual Battery, a felony, that allegedly occurred at Redemptorist High School in December.

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ou have a lot of experience with women being raped and how quick they bring charges, do you?

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nope i sure don't. but i'm saying that what actually happened and what the female says happened, more often than not are two different things.

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So you have a right to distinguish on the basis of age, but society doesn't? I'm "self-righteous" for agreeing with most of society that a 14 year old girl is too young, but you're not self-righteous because you draw the line a little younger?

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This is a nice and very self righteous argument. I error on the side of individual freedom and common sense. I am not saying "I should determine the age" or that it should be younger. Or that there should not be an age of consent. I do realize there is a huge difference between HS kids who are 3-4 years apart having sex and a 35 y/old molosteing 8 y olds.

We as a "society" make sliding differences between kids all the time. The 18 y/o "adult", can go to prison, be drafted and vote, but can't buy a beer. We let a 16 y/o drive, but they can't vote or go to a "R" rated movie without someone over 17. a 14 y/old can go tp a PG13 movie alone, but not her 12 y /old sister. Most people would not have a problem with their 13 y/old son mowing the lawn, but wouldn't think of letting a 9 y/old do the same thing.

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I agree that the facts of every case have to be considered. But this goes more to the issue of punishment, not guilt. If they had sexual relations with a 14 year old girl, they are guilty. What punishment is appropriate will depend on all the circumstances surrounding it. I'm not saying they should necessarily go to jail. Maybe there are mitigating circumstances.

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Then we are in agreement. I see no benefit to anyone or "society" for imprisoning an 18 y/old HS Sr for having consensual sex with a younger classmate.

In this case the girl is 14, but there are many cases where the girl is older 16 or 17 depending on the state. There was one case, I forget the state (Georgia maybe?) anyway, a 19 y/old had sex with his then 17 y/old GF. She got in a fight with her mother who reported him to the cops. He was arrested and charge with Stat Rape. Went to jail, even after the mother and daughter pleaded with the DA to drop the charges. They are now married, but he is registered sex offender for the rest of his life. He can't pick up his own kids from school. They had to move out into the sticks basically because he couldn't live with in x number of yds from schools, churches or places kids might go. Now is that justice? Is your fricking society better off? Your kids safer? Or are we just wasting time and money.

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Then we are in agreement. I see no benefit to anyone or "society" for imprisoning an 18 y/old HS Sr for having consensual sex with a younger classmate.

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That is a intellectually dishonest description of the facts in this case.

Let's be very clear, this is an 18 year old and a 14 year old girl.

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That is a intellectually dishonest description of the facts in this case.

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My comment did was not about "this case" but rather in general.

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Let's be very clear, this is an 18 year old and a 14 year old girl.

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yeah, that's been covered, so what? Both are in HS, its not the same as 28 and 14.

We can argue general issues of these situations forever, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for Hill in regards to whether or not he losses his LSU offer.

I'm not saying he should have his offer pulled but if the coaches feel like in a year with such a # crunch and self-limits on signees, that he and his cloud on the horizon, coupled with his pulling of his previous verbal, are to uncertain to take his LOI on Feb. 2. I'm fine with that.

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but I think they can take his LOI, they don't have to worry about the limits until August anyway.

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There's a limit of 28 players that you can sign to a LOI now in the SEC.

Also, didn't Hill get expelled from school over this? It's one thing to sign a kid when you know he's a risk to not qualify because he might get some bad final grades or may not score high enough on the SAT. But how do you sign a kid that isn't even enrolled in school and wont be graduating?

I may be wrong about the expulsion though. I seem to remember hearing that. If true, I don't see how you could accept him. I mean, what's the plan there? Hope he gets his GED in jail and then enroll him next year?

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My comment did was not about "this case" but rather in general.

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The comment was meant to diminish the severity of Jeremy Hill's actions.

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Both are in HS

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So what?

She is still a 14 year old likely in the middle of Puberty. She's very likely emotionally not mature enough to consent to such an action. And, and 18 year old who convinces her to do something is committing a crime. That he didn't forcibly make her perform doesn't excuse it at all.

You are a sick individual.

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That's an entirely different topic, but I think they can take his LOI, they don't have to worry about the limits until August anyway.

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If Les wants to thats his decision but with the self limitations I'd thought LSU agreed to lower it's signees along with it's scholarships?

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and yes they are kids even at 18

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So charge them as minors for all crimes they committ or only the ones u don't agree with the?