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Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:07 am to 0
yeah Curry gonna have a Darrel Williams type career @ LSU. He is a great pick up.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:44 am to tke857
Davis, Cain and Emery in next years class are all better every down backs than Joiner. They will pass him up bc of his running style. He should seriously consider converting to DE/OLB
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:57 am to hsgeoboy
If Joiner wants to commit then you take him. His size and athleticism make him versatile enough to help elsewhere if RB doesn't work out.
At that point if they really want Pooka also then keep an eye on his grades, keep pushing him and save a spot at the end. If hes a wait and see guy then let things play out and if there's room, take him.
Personally I take both If there's room. I see these 4 kids in a different light I suppose as to position.
My take is that a new(to us) position is being created consisting of kids like Provens, Williams and other versatile type kids with multi-position versatility . I see it as the Canada version of the Harvin role. Some will not work out and will either be slotted as a RB or WR,so we'd be smart to take a couple of kids each of the next couple of years to build our stock and find the right fits.
Gage was a guy most had forgotten was here until Canada came along and fit him at the spot and I thought he did well considering the circumstances.
CEH is an everydown back here. Hes just short and happens to have some scatback traits. He's thick, tough and good. He will be starting at some point next year.
At that point if they really want Pooka also then keep an eye on his grades, keep pushing him and save a spot at the end. If hes a wait and see guy then let things play out and if there's room, take him.
Personally I take both If there's room. I see these 4 kids in a different light I suppose as to position.
My take is that a new(to us) position is being created consisting of kids like Provens, Williams and other versatile type kids with multi-position versatility . I see it as the Canada version of the Harvin role. Some will not work out and will either be slotted as a RB or WR,so we'd be smart to take a couple of kids each of the next couple of years to build our stock and find the right fits.
Gage was a guy most had forgotten was here until Canada came along and fit him at the spot and I thought he did well considering the circumstances.
CEH is an everydown back here. Hes just short and happens to have some scatback traits. He's thick, tough and good. He will be starting at some point next year.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:58 am to hsgeoboy
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Who do you take?
Both, Pooka will be used more in the slot
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:00 am to lsufanva
Unfortunately with the new class size rules we have very very limited spots. Not sure you can take a guy who doesn't clearly have a position fit or a guy with grade/character issues
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:07 am to lsugradman
quote:Don't forget, despite the best efforts of the people who absolutely hate that Orgeron is our coach, right now Canada is still our OC... so Joiner is that all-purpose back in his offense as opposed to your "typical" APB. A frame of a big WR, but with the cuts/vision of a RB. So if not needed at HB, he can/will be utilized in the F-Back spot. It would open up a whole other set of plays with "2-back sets" with someone like that who can, with much hated motions (don't do anything- amirite?), pre-snap go from HB to F-B or even TE.
Davis, Cain and Emery in next years class are all better every down backs than Joiner. They will pass him up bc of his running style. He should seriously consider converting to DE/OLB
In other words, Joiner is LSU's perfect APB... or appears to be. Don't let 247's or Scout's definition throw you off.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:16 am to I20goon
If orgeron really wants to go back to I form offense, he may not want Pooka anymore. Although he is from New Orleans and O still has to appease those legendary coaches there who are mad Jabar Juluke didn't get a lifetime contract for finishing 3rd on the only RB he recruited.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:43 am to GoodOlBoy7
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Joiner is more of the prototypical bruiser we need
Show me a single play in any of Joiner's highlights where he is a bruiser.
The guy doesn't have any highlights of him running anyone over. He's a finesse back in a power back's body. You may think that's advantageous but it's the opposite. He's not a bruiser with shakes. He's a slow scat back with no power.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:55 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Pookas grades make it risky but LSU will regret not signing this kid if he ends up qualifying. Kid is the next Tavon Austin.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:05 pm to hsgeoboy
Take both. Pooka could be a RB or Slot Receiver and is a speed merchant. Joiner is a big, hard running SEC back.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:08 pm to TigerBehindEnemyLines
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:12 pm to MT555
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I’m sorry but CEH is not an every down back.
based off of............................................................................................??????????.................................
Posted on 12/4/17 at 3:50 pm to pellietigersaint
CEH could easily get 15-25 touches per game imo. Have you seen his lower body. Kid is built like a tank. He’s heavier than guice I believe.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:34 pm to William G
Take neither and get the grad transfer from Baylor Terrence Williams.
A grad transfer or a JUCO kid to be a branch back until the 2019 kids get here is a more solid plan.
A grad transfer or a JUCO kid to be a branch back until the 2019 kids get here is a more solid plan.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:11 pm to hsgeoboy
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Who do you take?
How many D1 P5 RB's do you see at 5'8" and 165 lbs and that is his published numbers...
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:53 pm to GetmorewithLes
It's not a good comparison... Pooka might not be an everydown back right now- but he's special. Pooka would be a game changer the first day he steps on campus. A recruiting expert that I speak with weekly said that he is one of the Top 5 athletes that has come out of LA in the past 25 years. I put him on the spot and asked him to name the other athletes that you would put Pooka in the same class as. He named, T. Mathieu, E. Reed, I. Hilliard. As a coach you can't let someone in that company get away.
I'd compare him to former all-pro Brian Mitchell. Who is 5'10" 195 and has the 2nd most yards from scrimmage in NFL history. We CAN'T let him get away.
I'd compare him to former all-pro Brian Mitchell. Who is 5'10" 195 and has the 2nd most yards from scrimmage in NFL history. We CAN'T let him get away.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:03 pm to TaddT189
Williams is a special talent. With grades he is a take imo.
Not sold on Joiner at tailback.
Not sold on Joiner at tailback.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 8:28 am to SoloTiger
Anyone who has ever seen Pooka play knows he is a rare talent that you see only so often. Kid has over 1,100 yards rushing in 4 playoff games this year in 5A football, he is unbelievable. 
Posted on 12/5/17 at 8:46 am to Monroelegend
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Harold Joiner v Pooka Williams
How in the hell do you not go all in on Pooka? You can walk across a cow pasture kick over a cow patty and find running back like Joiner. Kids like Pooka come along once every 4 or 5 yrs. If Canada stays he is perfect for that offense.
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