re: Gunner Kiel Back on LSU Campus Today!

Kiel is going to be a big time QB

I hope he likes the warm weather we had last week vs snow in Indiana, Ohio.

currently, his top 4 include LSU, ND, arky, vandy.
lots of SEC schools could be a tip off to how he is thinking. looks good for us but only time will tell.

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BK was in his qb's shite everytime the kid came off the field. Chewed his arse the whole game. I know i would rather have Les talking to me as a young man than some short fat @#$% chewing on me. Thats just the way i see it.

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We share the same perception of Kelly:

commentators taking note:
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and MichiganZone's funny take of the same event: LINK

At least Kelly did not spank his player as Saban the Ranter has done:
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Here Saban rationalizes his anger by saying his approach is appropriate for pros:
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One has to wonder about the psyche of a recruit who knowingly chooses a coach who will treat him this abusively. There are better ways to teach the same things, ways that respect human dignity.

added thought: The kid who needs this type of abuse to develop his skills has some dysfunctional mental issues that would not enhance the Tigers' locker room. The kid who chooses a Kelly or a Saban would not develop and likely harm our team. Head cases we can do without. Some people need a tyrant to live under. We don't want those people.

Kelly hasn't exactly been great in handling his QB's this year

LSU has a chance but I think when all is said and done he stays closer to home

His thinking with LSU, Mettenberger plays next two years unless he absolutely blows up next year and goes pro, Randall gets moved to WR or CB or Ath, I'm one/two with Rivers. Les is not afraid to play more than one QB. The oline recruits and current fr in the program ensure my stability and I will always have a solid running game to make my life easier.

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If you were trying to change the losing attitude that has been present for the last 20 years at ND and aren't living up to the high expectations you expect out of your players I am sure you would be yelling too

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Coach Miles did not yell when he changed the losing mindset at Oklahoma State. Yelling is not required for teaching. It is required by angry people who take any opportunity to vent.

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That's not even mentioning that they are 3rd to last in the whole country in turnover margin.

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Were they 3rd to last before Kelly was coach?

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I have no problems with him ripping them when they consistently screw up. Seems to work in the military.

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That is true, tyranny works where rights are denied. Military discipline can be effective under certain circumstances. The question is are those circumstances compatible with places of higher learning, places where freedom is valued? Do you want players who need to be coerced into playing better or players who choose to play better? You can have all of the former type; Tigers are better off with only the latter. Any kid who chooses a coach with Saban Syndrome is good riddance: he would not fit in and likely soil team psyche.

well that would actually be florida state.

anywhoo. are you attempting to argue that players wont play for coach saban because he yells at his players? have you ever played competitive sports before? my god man, coaches yell. gunner kiel was quite high on alabama earlier this year and im sure he was well aware that coach saban screams at his players. this overly sensitive nonsense to coaches yelling is very amusing though.

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oh my, did you forget to put on your vagisil today?

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You are soooo macho! How impressive!

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this is football not summer dancing lessons. if you have ever played competitive sports before you would know that coaches yell, coaches scream, its part of the culture

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A Notre Dame fan lecturing a tiger fan about football. That's choice. We watch the best team in the land play football and we don't see yelling or screaming. The culture YOU see is losing football. There are petty tyrants coaching in all sports at all levels. There are also positive mentors who teach while preserving human dignity. You like tyrants? Bully for you -- literally.

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for one to think gunner is or is not going to come to notre dame because BK yells at his QBs would be borderline insanity.

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If teaching style is irrelevant to him and his parents, you can have him. But what is in fact borderline insanity is an out-of-control coach berating and humiliating a kid on national TV for a mistake the kid did not intend to make. You are confused about what is borderline insanity and about what is an appropriate "culture" for teaching anything -- including football.

bad idea, Kiel needs to play in year 1 at LSU. get his feet wet and get speed of game. he won't be around more than 4 years so why waste a year on a redshirt.