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Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by CT3
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:02 pm to
I'm fine. Just laughing at yall making this kid, some type of cult hero. Laughing at yall on 247.
Posted by CoachJG45
Member since Oct 2017
639 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:06 pm to
Cool pal! Thanks for your insight!

Vol Tiger you are spot on
Posted by CT3
Member since Apr 2013
559 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:08 pm to
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I disagree. Jump on board with the best offer you got at the moment, and if something better comes along later, you can always jump ship. If it doesn't, then you're already on board with a great school and just stay where you're at.
Do you get upset when kids, do this w/ LSU aka Jaren Handy and all the other kids that make "business" decisions. Just wondering if you think its alright for any recruit, or just this one? BTW, I do like reading your insights.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:17 pm to
At the end of the day, it's a business decision for the kid just like it is for the school. I'll never fault a kid for doing what he thinks is best for his life/career. Got to remember, there's been countless kids lose a spot day before/of signing day because the schools got a better player instead.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:39 pm to
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I'm fine. Just laughing at yall making this kid, some type of cult hero. Laughing at yall on 247.


Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 5:48 am to
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I disagree. Jump on board with the best offer you got at the moment, and if something better comes along later, you can always jump ship


You make a good point, however I was going off the assumption that what Coach said very early in this thread about him committing and being done with it, was still the case.

It wouldn't be wise to jump all over a Vandy offer and shut it down, if you end up with some big time programs knocking on your door later.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:06 am to
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It wouldn't be wise to jump all over a Vandy offer and shut it down, if you end up with some big time programs knocking on your door later.



If a big time program likes you as a prospect being committed to a team does not stop them one bit. In fact it makes them recruit you even harder.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:11 am to
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If a big time program likes you as a prospect being committed to a team does not stop them one bit. In fact it makes them recruit you even harder


I got that, but in this thread it was said that Quad will be picking a school and sticking with it. No games, no wavering, etc. That is what I am basing what I said off of.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:57 am to
From AL.com

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But Tagovailoa visited Tennessee last weekend , and he's also received renewed interest from LSU, despite having committed to Alabama on A-Day earlier this year . "If one of those guys does decide to de-commit, my offer becomes committable and I'm the next guy that they want," Brown said.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11336 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:59 am to
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my offer becomes committable and I'm the next guy that they want,


So it’s not a commitable offer
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15804 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:02 am to
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So it’s not a commitable offer


I absolutely hate the noncommitable offer in college athletics. It's just a ploy used against these young kids.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:06 am to
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absolutely hate the noncommitable offer in college athletics. It's just a ploy used against these young kids.


More glitter just to secure Jason. WTF is a non committable offer? Its NOT an offer, period
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:31 am to
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WTF is a non committable offer?


quote:

You can look at the menu, but you just can't eat You can feel the cushion, but you can't have a seat You can dip your foot in the pool, but you can't have a swim You can feel the punishment, but you can't commit the sin


quote:

You can see the summit but you can't reach it It's the last piece of the puzzle but you just can't make it fit Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the pain Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the drain


Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:07 am to
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WTF is a non committable offer? Its NOT an offer, period


It seems like the exact same thing LSU, and probably Michigan, is doing, just with different wording.

We are interested in you, but we need to let other Dominos fall first. Unfortunately, Sabans way of wording seems to have a bigger impact on the kid, even though the "offer" could very well end up being a lie. I'm not sold on Orgeron, but I agree with his way of handling this more. It seems to be more in the best interest of the kid. Saban plays the game differently, and he has motives for making every move he makes. It is obviously not a bad way of doing things, because he is winning. I just don't agree with it. And it seems like kids fall victim to it every year.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:10 am to
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WTF is a non committable offer? Its NOT an offer, period


Contingent offers (this guy goes here, this guy flips, he transfers, etc then this offer becomes valid)...they have been around forever. Nothing new.

You dont hear about them often bc it's a sore subject to some recruits. Quad however is confident enough in himself to talk about it.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15804 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:18 am to
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It seems like the exact same thing LSU, and probably Michigan, is doing, just with different wording.


This is actually a very very good way of looking at it.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:21 am to
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Sabans way of wording seems to have a bigger impact on the kid, even though the "offer" could very well end up being a lie. I'm not sold on Orgeron, but I agree with his way of handling this more. It seems to be more in the best interest of the kid. Saban plays the game differently,

So, if you interview for a job:

Would you rather the company go completely silent after the interview and not tell you anything about where you stand?

Or, would you rather the company tell you they have a couple of other candidates that they think are a better fit, but if something doesn't work out with them, then you're next in line?

Personally, I'd prefer method 2.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19738 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:35 am to
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Personally, I'd prefer method 2
I agree with you whitefoot.

Silence is a message itself.

Communication (sometimes relayed from recruits as "love"), is often more valuable than an offer.

I would say communication is definitely more valuable than a non-committable offer. Always.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:42 am to
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Would you rather the company go completely silent after the interview and not tell you anything about where you stand?



Do we know that LSU and Michigan have gone totally silent and not said anything? It was my understanding that LSU communicated that they liked what they saw from Quad. They just didn't offer, for whatever the reasons may be. How often do they have to stay in connect to not be considered silent? Once a day? Once a week? Once a month?

My point is...what's the difference in saying, "We like you," but not offer yet and "We like you, here is your offer but we will not accept your commitment at this time."
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 10:43 am
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15804 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:14 am to
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Do we know that LSU and Michigan have gone totally silent and not said anything? It was my understanding that LSU communicated that they liked what they saw from Quad. They just didn't offer, for whatever the reasons may be. How often do they have to stay in connect to not be considered silent? Once a day? Once a week? Once a month?


Shea stated this morning that the communication between Brown and the staff has been limited since his workout, but they've been in contact with Knox Kadum on a daily basis.
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