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re: Fan asked Jermaine Burton when he knew LSU was the right fit
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:38 am to Alt26
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:38 am to Alt26
I guess the biggest difference for me is that Orgeron is clearly TRYING to change the offense. The last two years haven't totally worked out, but you could still see that an attempt was made. Last year, the vast majority of our plays were run out of shotgun, single back, three wide receiver sets. I don't think the passing game was very well designed, but you could see that the intent was there.
Under Miles, we would hear year after year that the offense would be more explosive, but there were never any actual new plays or formations. It's like they made claims based solely on the expectation that the players were just going to run the same offense better that year than they did the previous year.
Under Miles, we would hear year after year that the offense would be more explosive, but there were never any actual new plays or formations. It's like they made claims based solely on the expectation that the players were just going to run the same offense better that year than they did the previous year.
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:40 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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we’ve heard a Change to a wide open offense for how long? I think this time it’s happening!!!
When has anyone at LSU ever said this?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:18 pm to TexasTiger24
I would love for the #1QB outta Cali come also.Maybe allow one to look elsewhere for him to come in
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:30 pm to Alt26
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Most notably, two years ago when O' took "steps (in changing) the coaching staff to implement a new system" by hiring Canada. Four games into the season O was at odds with the new offense.
That may be, but it was still a new offense, and one that outgained Alabama in total yards for the first time since 2012, and the only LSU offense to score on Alabama in the last three seasons.
Coach O has ALREADY shown a commitment to upgrading the offense. The ones crying about they'll 'believe it when they see it' are just blind, impatient children.
Brady might not be the answer for the offense, but no one can reasonable say that O isn't trying to upgrade the offense.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:32 pm to Alt26
The main difference is Burrow in year 2
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:56 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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That may be, but it was still a new offense, and one that outgained Alabama in total yards for the first time since 2012, and the only LSU offense to score on Alabama in the last three seasons. Coach O has ALREADY shown a commitment to upgrading the offense. The ones crying about they'll 'believe it when they see it' are just blind, impatient children.
And then O abruptly fired that OC after one season and reverted back to the guy that led LSU to zero points vs. Alabama in 2016. That same guy then led LSU to zero points vs. Alabama in 2018 as well. So essentially what we've seen is O "show a commitment to upgrading the offense." Only to quickly back off that commitment and revert back to a sense of comfort. Only to then commit to try to upgrade the offense once more.
I don't think any fan wants the purported new offense to fail. But I can certainly understand why many would take a wait and see approach.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:56 pm to TexasTiger24
quote:So, what does that mean?? That the offense will finally be opened the hell up?? Because I surely hope so, and everyone else does to, I'm sure. LSU has always had a boat load of talent on both sides of the ball, but only one side has played up to expectations. LSU consistently brings in top shelf WR talent every year despite the underwhelming, one dimensional style of offense that they have every season.
"When coach joe Brady took over the offense"
Always preferring to pound the ball even though they have receivers that are amongst the best in the country, and they can throw the ball equally as effective as they run the ball if they chose to do so with the right coach leading the way. Now hopefully that coach is Brady who if he opens it up, and it looks like he will, all signs point to that. Well then finally people will see a explosive LSU offense that they've been wanting and waiting to see for a loong time coming now. They'll be lighting up teams with an attack that will be hard to stop because now they won't be just one dimensional anymore. The strong running attack will be complimented now by a strong passing attack. Geaux Tigers!!
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:01 pm to Alt26
Kind of ignorant to suggest the 2016 and 2018 offenses were remotely similar.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:09 pm to whitefoot
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Dude hasn't even coached in a game yet..pump the breaks
His last job wasn't exactly working at Walmart!
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:34 pm to Alt26
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And then O abruptly fired that OC after one season
I think O wanted more of a passing attack.
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reverted back to the guy
Thank God we have Ensminger on staff as a fall back. That guy is just doing whatever is asked of him to support his alma mater. I'll be sorry to see him go when he finally hangs it up.
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Only to then commit to try to upgrade the offense once more.
I got no problem with that. The man is trying to get it done.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:42 pm to tubucoco
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"When coach joe Brady took over the offense"So, what does that mean??
Jeezus!! It was a comment by a high school recruit and now everybody's trying to make some big issue out of it!
How would Burton know Brady "took over the offense?" Is it just maybe barely possible that he misspoke?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:07 pm to BigSlick
Shut the hell up, arse, no one's making a big deal of anything. You're just overblowing shite on here as usual like y'all tend to do, and you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I simply meant that I hope that the offense is finally opened up like people have been wanting for a long, long time now at LSU. This kid said his reason for coming to LSU is because of Brady and the fact that LSU's offense will now finally be much more involved in passing the ball from the sounds of it. He certainly isn't coming to LSU because of Ensminger, so it will be nice to see an LSU offense like I said that will be clicking on all cylinders both running and passing wise.
quote:Really?? He wouldn't have made that comment if he didn't know that Brady would be involved in the offense. Lmao
How would Burton know Brady "took over the offense?" Is it just maybe barely possible that he misspoke?
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:14 pm to TexasTiger24
Super excited about Brady. But Overall imo E has done a decent job during his time as interim & permanent OC. He did a good job molding the offense around Joe. Considering that we didn’t have a stud Rb, (although CEH is developing into one) inconsistent Wr play, depleted TE, and a depleted / inexperienced Oline, the offense was formidable. This season with joe back the Wr group full off Sr, and the young studs like chase and marshall and CEH are poised to break out. Imo he’s gonna emerge as a top tier back. E/ Brady is gonna have a lot of options.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:30 pm to tubucoco
First, I wasn't especially addressing you. I did write "everybody" but that evidently went over your head.
Second, there are plenty of comments referencing the history of LSU's offense. That seems like a big deal to me; more rantards blowing off the usual steam we've heard ad nauseum: Miles, toss-dive, Orgeron/Cameron. etc.
Third, in case you didn't realize it when you edited your post, there's a difference between taking over the offense and being more involved in the offense. Burton said "took over," but now you're equating that with "involved." So, which is it? My point was that Burton wouldn't know if Brady "took over" and you indirectly agreed with me when you backed-down to "involved." That went over your head as well.
Fourth, I doubt anyone wants to see the same old crap. I want to see a more open offense just as much as you do.
Fifth, before you start calling people asses, take some Midol, stuff another rag between your legs and then go frick yourself.
Second, there are plenty of comments referencing the history of LSU's offense. That seems like a big deal to me; more rantards blowing off the usual steam we've heard ad nauseum: Miles, toss-dive, Orgeron/Cameron. etc.
Third, in case you didn't realize it when you edited your post, there's a difference between taking over the offense and being more involved in the offense. Burton said "took over," but now you're equating that with "involved." So, which is it? My point was that Burton wouldn't know if Brady "took over" and you indirectly agreed with me when you backed-down to "involved." That went over your head as well.
Fourth, I doubt anyone wants to see the same old crap. I want to see a more open offense just as much as you do.
Fifth, before you start calling people asses, take some Midol, stuff another rag between your legs and then go frick yourself.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:35 pm to Saintsntigers04
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For most people it's more of the case of wanting to see it before we believe type of thing. You can't fault anyone for having that train of thought when that's been the story for the last 6 years every off-season and then the season gets here and the offense is still shite
You can already see changes. Hell, despite the prevailing opinion over there, LSU ran a lot of spread even last year. This isn't Miles making new promises without making a single coaching change every offseason.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:41 pm to tubucoco
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How would Burton know Brady "took over the offense?" Is it just maybe barely possible that he misspoke?
What do you think those guys talked about on recruiting visits?
Don't you believe they talked about the type offense, plays he would call, and where the young man would fit into that offense. I'd bet Burton knows more about the offense than any of the bitch and whiners who call themselves fans.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:48 pm to TexasTiger24
I would love for the #1QB outta Cali come also.Maybe allow one to look elsewhere for him to come in
Posted on 4/22/19 at 10:13 pm to The Pirate King
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Because he’s never been a coordinator in major college football before and certainly never called plays before.
Is he running the offense?
Posted on 4/23/19 at 6:12 am to olgoi khorkhoi
He's the passing game coordinator and will be involved in the running of the offense a good bit I would say, and to clarify... The clown I got into it with has a bad understanding about what I said on this matter, and I'm agreeing with him in no damn way whatsoever, but as I said to clarify what I meant in my original comment about Brady. He was hired as passing game coordinator which means that he is involved in the playcalling even though Ensminger is still OC. So, in no way is he taking over the offense like the kid Burton said, but he still is greatly involved in what goes on offensively with the playcalling.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 6:37 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:17 pm to TexasTiger24
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Burton responded: “When coach joe Brady took over the offense”
I had no idea Brady was promoted to Offensive Coordinator
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