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re: Ego to stay at DE at LSU?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 1:18 am to seinfeldtiger
Posted on 2/6/10 at 1:18 am to seinfeldtiger
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Yes, i think Allen at 290 in two years projects better at the one tech since he plays low and dont think he loses any quickness gaining 20 pounds..
Once again, Allen won't be playing "one tech"... or any other "three tech". He'll be playing OT.
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Posted on 2/6/10 at 1:42 am to OBUDan
How do you pronounce his name?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 2:07 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
I think E-Go is just as it is spelled (on maxpreps signing day video they pronounced it just as normal ego)
Posted on 2/6/10 at 7:56 am to LSUisOVER9000
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many as in you right?
No, exactly the opposite.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:20 am to deuce985
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We'll slide Brockers in the middle too, which I hear the coaches are high on. I have no idea how a 6'6+ DT is going to do though. To me, that seems more like a 3-4 guy. I hope he can maintain leverage at that height...
I'm very high on Brockers...I think he's one of the better prospects from last year's class.
He looks mean.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:21 am to cubsgrace
Does he go by Ego or J.R. or Jr (as in Junior Ferguson)???
I assume the JR is bc he full name is Ego Ferguson Jr.... Correct??
I assume the JR is bc he full name is Ego Ferguson Jr.... Correct??
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:24 am to STEVED00
Total idiot question here, but how big do you think Brockers can get? Can he be 6-6 310? And what would be the optimal weight for a 4-3 style DT that is 6-6?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:50 am to cubsgrace
Pardon me for stating the obvious...but here I go. Yes, LSU supposedly promised Ferguson that he could stay at DE and that's mainly why we got him. However, as we have seen with Russel Shepard, once a kid gets on the team and they see the depth chart, the conversation goes something like this:
(Sometime during the fall practices in August) the Coaches will be speaking to Ego:
Jr., you can see that we are really deep at DE, there are some guys that have more experience than you and are, quite frankly, just as good as you are. And, you will either share minimal playing time or ride the pine this year.
However, if you want guaranteed playing time in your freshman year...over here we have the DT position, which you have played in High School...
Now we can keep you at DE and you may or may not play, but if you continue to practice hard and do well, come September, you will be in the DT rotation and playing this year at DT because that is where we need you due to the "team" being thinest at DT on the defensive line.
Now, what do you say?
I say he makes the choice to be a player as a freshman and switches to DT with the option to move back to DE later.
(Sometime during the fall practices in August) the Coaches will be speaking to Ego:
Jr., you can see that we are really deep at DE, there are some guys that have more experience than you and are, quite frankly, just as good as you are. And, you will either share minimal playing time or ride the pine this year.
However, if you want guaranteed playing time in your freshman year...over here we have the DT position, which you have played in High School...
Now we can keep you at DE and you may or may not play, but if you continue to practice hard and do well, come September, you will be in the DT rotation and playing this year at DT because that is where we need you due to the "team" being thinest at DT on the defensive line.
Now, what do you say?
I say he makes the choice to be a player as a freshman and switches to DT with the option to move back to DE later.
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:54 am to Sonny G
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I say he makes the choice to be a player as a freshman and switches to DT with the option to move back to DE later.
But with the prospect of so many good DTs coming in next year, could you see Ego redshirting and being a superb DE?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 9:58 am to ItTakesAThief
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I think there was an article a while back where he said that he wanted to play DE.
I don't think he really has an interest in DT.
LSU has five defensive linemen on the official roster that are not designated "DT", or "DE", two of which are scholarship players: Josh Downs and J.R. "Ego" Ferguson. That, to me, indicates that he will get looks at both inside and outside, at least at first. His growth and skill set will likely combine to determine his upperclass playing position.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:01 am to dstone12
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But with the prospect of so many good DTs coming in next year, could you see Ego redshirting and being a superb DE?
Players don't think about the next class coming in when there is a chance to start this year or receive substantial playing time.
And, once all those DTs show up next year, he can switch back to DE, but he will have the experience of playing that he would not have gotten if he had stayed at DE.
I've seen the guy's film and he is a natural DE, but he can also play DT and that's were we need him next year...then he will be given the opportunity to switch back to DE...I promise you.
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:13 am to dstone12
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what would be the optimal weight for a 4-3 style DT that is 6-6?
In Chavis scheme yes...His notable two best DT he's coached and had them on field at same time for 2 years...Albert Haynesworth 6'6 and John Henderson 6'7
The most dominate Dlineman in years Suh is Close to 6'5.
Therefore, yes Brockers and Allen fit the mold of what Chavis likes at a 1tech and 3tech
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:17 am to Sonny G
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I've seen the guy's film and he is a natural DE
How so? Give me examples of what he does to be a natural DE?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:23 am to seinfeldtiger
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How so? Give me examples of what he does to be a natural DE?
4.6 40 yard dash and great lateral quickness for a big man...is that enough?...go watch the film. Scan down the page.
J.R. Ferguson free video
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:26 am to LSUisOVER9000
He'll be a nasty DE.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:35 am to Sonny G
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4.6 40 yard dash and great lateral quickness for a big man...is that enough
No what else?..give me examples of his technique. There has to be more to a player at DE then running a 4.6 (supposedly).
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:39 am to Sonny G
What makes him a great prospect for DE also are qualities that make great DTs and are valued at both positions. However, what makes him at great DT prospect is the fact that he has a tremendous burst or explosion off the snap of the ball. This allows him to penetrate the offensive line (shoot the gap between the guard and center or guard and offensive tackle). Offensive line penetration (the ability to shoot the gap) blows up plays and disrupts the offensive line's blocking scheme, and creates QB sacks and/or tackles for a loss in the backfield. This is a tremendous attribute of all defensive linemen regardless of DE or DT position.
This is why I believe he can be in the rotation at DT as a true freshmen and our lack of depth at the position.
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 10:41 am
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:41 am to STEVED00
Yeah his dad is Ego sr. He's ego jr. thus JR.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:46 am to Sonny G
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makes him at great DT prospect
So you think if your good at DE, it translates well to DT?
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shoot the gap between the guard and center or guard and offensive tackle). Offensive line penetration (the ability to shoot the gap) blows up plays
You think in his film he does this better then Copeland Or possibly J.Allen (if moves inside)?
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:48 am to seinfeldtiger
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No what else?..give me examples of his technique. There has to be more to a player at DE then running a 4.6 (supposedly).
Don't be obtuse...flat out speed and lateral quickness are 75% of what it takes to be a great DE with it being a given that you have the body frame to be a DE.
Ferguson also can beat the block (at least in High School). It is yet to be seen if he can anticipate the play or read an offense and beat the block at the collegiate level. He will certainly need to work on technique at the college level in order to beat the block. Technique is something that must be developed at the next level as all kids are not a finished product in H.S. Some may have better technique than others out of H.S., but all should be much better with more intense training.
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 11:01 am
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