re: Don't let anyone tell you that 5* recruits don't matter.

Oh people very well understand statistics.

People just don’t care what your stats say. As stats can be cooked and chopped in any number of subjective ways to convey a desired narrative.

I don’t care what your stats say. I prefer my own metrics.

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Stars don’t matter. For every Perkins there a John Emery

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Reality says you're extremely wrong. Like incredibly wrong.

good job

No sir. Thanks for the opinion though

The stats are t being twisted. Your opinion is the only thing twisted. 5 stars are supposed to be the best and the % of them drafted says they are in fact the best.

You are trying to argue a well coached 3* is better than a 5* that doesn’t practice and just tries to show up on gameday. That’s not what this argument is about.

If Nick Saban had his normal recruiting class vs being forced to take nothing but 2 and 3*’s his normal recruiting class team would kick the shite out of the lesser class team.

Stop with the heisman. You’re talking about an award most often given to a QB on the best team in the nation. I’m talking about the NFL draft, you know where teams spend millions of dollars on players.

How can you think that these stats are twisted? It’s pretty simple. If you are a 5 star then you are more likely to be drafted than if you are a 4 star. That can’t be twisted. It’s a fact. Any star can be drafted but if you are 5 then every single year it’s in your favor. Not simply because of the rating but because you are rated that high because of your height, weight, skill set, 40 time, high school tape, etc. That is a fact. That is not an opinion.

You’re telling me to do better? You’re wrong and most people have called you out on it.

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Sure, every now and then you have 5* that ends up as a complete bust. But more often than not, the reason these guys are ranked so high is because of their freak athletic ability and speed.

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Just look at our roster and you can start to question this. We have 5 5 star players on this roster and only 2 of them are actually capable of playing at the level indicated by that rating. It’s pretty obvious they are Perkins and Maason Smith.

Boutte played at that level for parts of two seasons, but has been more of a role player this year. That’s likely at least partly due to his injury, but that happens. There’s more than one reason why a highly rated player may not pan out, and this is one of them. Ryan and Emery have never been anything but role players and don’t show any signs of rising above that level. They were absolutely both overrated by the services.

If you want to really scratch your head, go through the 4 stars on this roster and take note of how many who don’t contribute at all on the field. Sure, there are guys out with injuries and redshirts in there, but there are also multiple busts on this current roster, so they definitely aren’t as rare as some of you want to believe. If you look at it honestly, the rate of contribution is as high or higher among our 3 stars and 1 primary 2 star players this season. Now that’s very rare here and likely just a one year outlier due to the coaching transition, but it should still be noted.

I’m not saying that stars don’t matter. They do in aggregate. But it’s not really about individual players. It’s really about recruiting highly rated players in volume. You can’t depend on one player and his individual rating. Just see Arik Gilbert for an adequate demonstration of that. It’s about having guys who are as good or better at the same position who will pass the ones who don’t work out.

Many other things also matter just as much as the stars, such as culture, fit, player leadership, roster balance and of course development. Part of the reason we’ve been so erratic over the last 15 years is because these things have never all been aligned together. We’ve had a lot of highly rated classes, but you have to have better roster management, balance and development to get to where Bama was and where UGA looks like it is now. If it was only about stars, A&M wouldn’t be imploding right now.

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The only reason there is a higher percentage of 5* that go on to good careers is because there so many less 5* players.

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Holy shite.

Why aren't they one stars? Caleb Williams was a five star and the number 6 player in the country. CJ Stroud was a four star and the 51st player in the country. Max Duggan was a four star, the number 1 player in Iowa and 9th overall at his position. Stetson was a two star but lets be honest. He got the invite because he is on the number 1 team in the country. Caleb 37 tds and 4 ints, CJ 37 and 6, Max 30 and 4, Stetson 20 and 6.

The favorite to win is the 5 star. Again, nobody is saying 4 stars are terrible. 32 5 stars so the 33 player is a four star. There is not going to be much difference between 32 and 33.