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re: Corey Raymond will get LSU secondary back right.

Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2600 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:49 pm to
No one knows what is in either NIL package.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10019 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

His secondary performances haven't been impressive the past 8 years or so


Within the last 8 years he directly coached Tre White, Greedy Williams, Donte Jackson, Kristian Fulton, Derek Stingley, and I’m sure a few more I’m forgetting. You’re talking out of your arse.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
3608 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:54 pm to
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They all transferred after Corey got let go
and none of them that transferred out were drafted or made any significant contributions besides Mcglothern. Missed evaluations since the 2019 cycle for the so called best DB coach in college football.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
137965 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

#1 CB. Elias Ricks
#1 CB. Derek Stingley
#12 CB Kelvin Joseph




hopefully he recruits guys with better character than those 3.

Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10019 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:59 pm to
Singling out 2 bad years out of 12 is crazy
Posted by brettamedee
Locust Grove, Georgia
Member since Jul 2013
173 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:22 pm to
The only reason Pickett is considering LSU is because of Raymond. Georgia was eliminated today. So, three team race. He will be a Tiger!!
Posted by SiriusBraveFan
Member since Nov 2014
705 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:36 pm to
The DB coach can't be expected to drop dollars so NIL is a bit of a separate topic to me. Everyone now is just so impatient. Hopefully with a good structure in place (i.e. head coach and surrounding staff) Corey Raymond can succeed. A big factor is the overall process and structure of an organization in my opinion.
Posted by WM88
West Monroe
Member since Aug 2004
1845 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:20 pm to
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Ricks came from Cali,
“When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!” I’ll shhh you were on a roll


I'm not understanding your point. I know Ricks was from Cali.
Ed Orgeron coached at USC and recruited Ricks before coming to LSU.
Ricks came to LSU because of Ed Orgeron
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
1317 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:41 am to
You can also argue many of those secondaries didn't perform to their expectations. Feel free to pull up the secondary numbers per year since 2016 under his coaching. They're not high at all. I'm actually surprised he didn't get heat more in Orgeron's tenure.


I can think of many games throughout those years his secondary was the reason we lost games. With talent. I think he had 1 good year and if my memory serve correct I think it was the 2016 season? You could argue the 2019 one was good as well despite numbers not backing them because they'd go to sleep with leads. They seemed to play better when their backs were against the wall.


His strength has always been his recruiting and evaluations. He can't really hold onto that strength in the NIL era due to bags being dropped so he's immediately kneecapped right there.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 2:44 am
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10019 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:36 am to
2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019 were all very good defenses and DB play. All of them averaging below 200 yards a game passing besides 2019 when we won every game.

After the National Championship, his DBs were piss poor. He can take some blame, but the Head Coach lost the team like I’ve never seen before
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13082 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:48 am to
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How dumb is this question?


Equal to your qoute. You decide.
You said he's one of the greatest DB coaches of all time. How long is the list? 10, 20,50,100,300? Broad spectrum there chief. I'll get to the point, any list shorter than 100, Raymond ain't on it. That's probably being kind. He was good not great. Notice the word was. 4 years and counting he's been average.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10019 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:17 am to
Top 100 he’s not on it lmao. That’s stupid.

Nice job upvoting yourself
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
944 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:16 pm to
Where were they from?
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10402 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:35 pm to
Some people just can’t grasp this concept. It’s amazing to me that this is still having to be explained while they continue to rag on Raymond.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14755 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:55 pm to
He damn well better. That is what he was brought back for.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11191 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:57 am to
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Some people just can’t grasp this concept. It’s amazing to me that this is still having to be explained while they continue to rag on Raymond.
You can grasp the concept and still rag on Raymond. I support Raymond, but the fact of the matter is we currently have no DBs committed. Not one. He needs to pick it up soon.
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
4259 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:27 am to
It's not all on Raymond if Oregon and Nike is offering way more for everyone services. What do you want him to do?

I do not know what they are offering in NIL or any numbers also. He has been back about 6 months also. We can complain and moan but end of day kids will make best decision they feel for them and they family. He is trying and going after Top CBs at this point that's all you can ask until he lands one.
Posted by KC_LSUFAN
Kansas City
Member since Jun 2017
617 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:07 am to
We are in the lead for the #1 CB and the #6 CB right now Pickett and Antoine.

actually we are NOT in the lead for the #1 CB, and he's NOT coming to LSU
he is will be a DUCK $$$$$$

We are going to spend more, but insure Antoine stays at LSU
Posted by KC_LSUFAN
Kansas City
Member since Jun 2017
617 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:10 am to
Pickett literally said Raymond was the reason LSU is in lead for him

was the reason, meaning the ONLY REASON he is on LSU's board?
In other words, he'd be a DUCK,
He's NOT NOT NOT NOT Coming.....

and
I HOPE, that i'm wrong, but i'm not
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6133 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:09 pm to
My bad I was just reading over my reply posts and noticed your post:
You’re right I thought it read OREGON not Orgeron, O is not on my mind much anymore
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