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re: Cole Smith is a beast!!! UA game

Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by kengel2
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:10 pm to
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Throw in Terrence Alexander and Tracy graduating and that’s 8 players gone.


Wait, you are really going to try to count players graduating?

Thats dumb.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:18 pm to
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“Baby Beast Mode” | Does Chris Curry live up to his nickname?


Hmmmm I’ll answer with a resounding “no”.

Don’t want to address any of the other players you mentioned? Just the running back with 8 carries last year??


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From LSU's 24/7 guy:


That tweet from Shea does not prove what I said wrong.

Gonna have to try a little harder and maybe do some work of your own instead of copying someone else’s.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:19 pm to
Even if you don’t count them, LSU brought in 19 freshmen and 6 of them are no longer here.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:20 pm to
So all those players that entered the portal for UF and Arkansas left the university or did they simply enter the portal and take their name out like Kelvin Joseph?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:24 pm to
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none of these guys have done anything of note, which is exactly why you have to say "DONT FORGET ABOUT THESE PLAYERS" because most fans probably have.


Yeah, kind of like Greedy Wlliams, DJ Chark, Tyler Shelvin, Justin Jefferson, Lloyd Cushenberry and countless other true freshmen who didn't play in their first seasons on the LSU team.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:29 pm to
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Wait, you are really going to try to count players graduating?

Thats dumb.


EVERYBODY and I mean EVERYBODY knows that.

When someone is desperately grasping at straws to try to tear something down they have trouble realizing the most basic things.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:29 pm to
Greedy Williams started his second year.
So did Chark and Jefferson and Cush.

Which of those guys is starting this year?
Moore is not, Jaray Jenkins is not, Nelson Jenkins is not, Kenan Jones is not, Wire, Rosenthal, Cherry, none of them will be starting this year.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:29 pm to
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When someone is desperately grasping at straws to try to tear something down they have trouble realizing the most basic things.


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Tiger Ree


Oh boy...
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:35 pm to
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That tweet from Shea does not prove what I said wrong.


God you are dense. His tweet was from over a year ago and says:
"From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now."

You listed the 2014, 2015 and 2016 classes as having more participants than the 2018 class.
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Gonna have to try a little harder and maybe do some work of your own instead of copying someone else’s


I don't have to try harder to make you look like the fool you are. You do that yourself. But, if I can quote a so-called "expert" or someone who gets paid to make evaluations and provide information I will continue to do so. If it bothers you then that just makes it that much better.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:37 pm to
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So all those players that entered the portal for UF and Arkansas left the university or did they simply enter the portal and take their name out like Kelvin Joseph?


He provided you with a link.

Why don't you:
"try a little harder and maybe do some work of your own"
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:44 pm to
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Chark

I really don't think Chark started, or even played much at all his second year.
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Cush

Didn't play much until his 3rd year as a red shirt sophomore.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30792 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:51 pm to
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Even if you don’t count them, LSU brought in 19 freshmen and 6 of them are no longer here.



Well you dont count them because they didnt transfer.

And that seems about normal.

You do realize that if you sign 25 guys a year, some people have to leave early or transfer. You can only have 85 guys. You get that right? You cant have 100, so ultimately someone will be asked to leave or they will leave on their own.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Greedy Williams started his second year.
So did Chark and Jefferson and Cush.


It's sad when an idiot who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about wants to argue.

Chark:

SOPHOMORE SEASON (2015)
Saw action in five games with no starts at wide receiver. Took a handoff on an end around in the Texas Bowl against Texas Tech and carried it 79 yards for a touchdown ... That play was his first time in his LSU career that he touched the football.

Cush:
REDSHIRT FRESHMAN SEASON (2017)
Saw action in 11 games overall playing on special teams and six games on the offensive line … totaled 100 snaps for the season. He played extensively against Texas A&M when center Will Clapp went down and finished with 2.5 knockdowns in 59 snaps.

How many starts did Cush have again?


Any of those players I listed can have as much or more playing time as Cushenberry or Chark.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:53 pm to
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God you are dense


Quite the opposite.

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You listed the 2014, 2015 and 2016 classes as having more participants than the 2018 class


Yes because that’s what you asked.

So whether or not they are still on the roster is irrelevant to how much they participated their freshman year.

Brandon Harris and Trey Quinn participated their freshman year.

Brandon Harris and Trey Quinn also transferred.

I didn’t think that needed to be explained, but since you are dense, here I am to explain it to you.

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You do that yourself.


quote:

Tiger Ree


Oh boy.


Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:54 pm to
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And that seems about normal.


Yes so normal it literally never happened under Dinardo Saban or Miles.

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You do realize that if you sign 25 guys a year, some people have to leave early or transfer. You can only have 85 guys. You get that right? You cant have 100, so ultimately someone will be asked to leave


Right, with the logic being that maybe some guys who never cracked the lineup after 2 or 3 years transferred out.

Not guys who were here for 12 months leaving because they sucked so bad.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:59 pm
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:57 pm to
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Any of those players I listed can have as much or more playing time as Cushenberry or Chark.


And they are just as likely to transfer out like the other 6 players from O’s VAUNTED 2018 CLASS.

do you think any of those 8 players gets anything more than some special teams or garbage time reps??? Be honest?
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 7:01 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:02 pm to
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And they are just as likely to transfer out like the other 6 players from O’s VAUNTED 2018 CLASS.

do you think any of those 8 players gets anything more than some special teams or garbage time reps??? Be honest?


I don't think you're going to find many who think the 2018 class was great or even above average. I'm not sure why this is where you've chosen to plant your flag.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Yes so normal it literally never happened under Dinardo Saban or Miles.


From LSU's 24/7 guy:
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Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon

In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.

From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.


A long read on the state of the #LSU scholarship chart, including insight on moves Orgeron's had to make.

YEAH, LIKE NEVER MAN, NEVER.






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Right, with the logic being that maybe some guys who never cracked the lineup after 2 or 3 years transferred out.

Not guys who were here for 12 months leaving because they sucked so bad.


So you, in all your idiocy want to keep players on the team for 2 or 3 years when you have better players coming in to take their place? You want the program to keep a player for 3 years knowing he will not contribute and it will be better for the team and the player for them to try to find somewhere else to play as soon as possible?

What a maroon. And I don't mean A&M either.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:08 pm to
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YEAH, LIKE NEVER MAN, NEVER.


Correct. DiNardo, Saban, Miles never had 6 freshmen leave after their freshmen season.

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So you, in all your idiocy want to keep players on the team for 2 or 3 years when you have better players coming in to take their place? You want the program to keep a player for 3 years knowing he will not contribute and it will be better for the team and the player for them to try to find somewhere else to play as soon as possible?


Where did I say this?


You are melting down worse than you did Saturday. Hopefully you don’t get banned again.

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What a maroon.


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Tiger Ree


Oh boy.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24548 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:10 pm to
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And they are just as likely to transfer out like the other 6 players from O’s VAUNTED 2018 CLASS.


It wasn't vaunted. It was the 15th ranked class. Don't let the fact that 11 players have started or significantly contributed make you forget that it was not a top 10 ranked class.

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do you think any of those 8 players gets anything more than some special teams or garbage time reps??? Be honest?


Who knows. I know as much about who will start or play as you do about LSU recruiting.

Those players could be a player injury or two away from starting. If Clapp had of got hurt before the last game of the season, Cushenberry wouldn't have made a liar out of you and would have actually started a game.
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