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Posted by tandrews37
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:13 pm to
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I don't think you're going to find many who think the 2018 class was great or even above average


There’s one poster in here who has called me an idiot multiple times for making that very claim.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Don't let the fact that 11 players have started or significantly contributed


2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2011, 2009, and 2001 all matched this number.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30769 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:46 pm to
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Correct. DiNardo, Saban, Miles never had 6 freshmen leave after their freshmen season.


Since you seem so hell bent on links for proof, where is your link for this?
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:47 pm to
The rosters from every season dating back to 2001.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30769 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:49 pm to
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The rosters from every season dating back to 2001.


You got a link? Of course you dont.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Correct. DiNardo, Saban, Miles never had 6 freshmen leave after their freshmen season.


Three problems with this statement.

1) transfers have never been as common as they are right now. When dinardo, saban miles (most of his tenure) transfers weren't very common.

2) one of the biggest problems with miles was his unwillingness to process players

3) why are you bringing Dinardo into the discussion? Is that where you want this program to be? A consistent top 25 team who could shock the world once and follow that up with a loss to ole miss?
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 8:14 pm
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:28 pm to
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You got a link?


LSUsports.net
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:30 pm to
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2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2011, 2009, and 2001 all matched this number.


So the most recent class has had two seasons to match what 2018 has already done after just one season. How bad were all of those classes that most have completed their eligibility and JUST match the 2018 class after one season.

Tell me how horrible the 2018 class is again. I love hearing the misery over absolutely nothing.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30769 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:32 pm to
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tandrews37


Troll
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:33 pm to
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transfers have never been as common as they are right now.


So there’s another FBS program that had 6 freshmen leave this year? Shouldn’t be that hard to show me.

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one of the biggest problems with miles was his unwillingness to process players


This is a lie.

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why are you bringing Dinardo into the discussion? Is that where you want this program to be? A consistent top 25 team who could shock the world once and follow that up with a loss to ole miss?


What?? The point I’m trying to make is that no coach ever had the kind of attrition from a freshmen class because the 2018 class was awful. 6 players gone, another 8 who won’t contribute this season. That’s a bad class. Period.

Your point about we wanting the program to be where DiNardo had it is pure nonsense.

Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:41 pm to
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So the most recent class has had two seasons to match what 2018 has already done after just one season.


The 2017 class matched the number in one game, buster.

LINK

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Tell me how horrible the 2018 class is again


8 players who are gone, 8 who won’t contribute this year. That’s 16 out of 25.

This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:49 pm to
Damn dude. You're getting awfully bent out of shape about the 2018 signing class.

Did someone say it was awesome or something? The top of the class seems solid, the jury is still out on the middle of the class, and the bottom of the class hasn't panned out.

It looks like the staff took some chances on some guys and they didn't work out. When you consider our crunch to get down to 85, we just couldn't be patient with guys who might contribute as juniors or seniors.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:49 pm to
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The point I’m trying to make is that no coach ever had the kind of attrition from a freshmen class because the 2018 class


So you are only crying because it is the freshmen who would never play who are leaving so the team can get to 85 scholarship players.

If some of them were juniors or seniors you wouldn't be crying like a little bitch?


From LSU's 24/7 guy:
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Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon

In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.

From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.


A long read on the state of the #LSU scholarship chart, including insight on moves Orgeron's had to make.

You may want to calculate the percentage of 2018 players that have left and then start crying like a little bitch about the 2014, 2015 and 2016 classes. They have had A LOT of attrition.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:57 pm to
You have linked that same tweet three times, and yet you still don’t seem to understand the contents of that tweet.

Even better that you keep linking to an article that is listed as VIP only lmao.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:57 pm to
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That’s 16 out of 25.


You really are an idiot. If I wasn't wasting time while watching the CWS on mute I wouldn't even talk to you.

LSU did not sign 25 players in 2018 moron. Know what the "F" you are talking about before opening your mouth and alerting everyone to the fact that you are indeed an idiot.

2 players graduated. If you thought LSU was better off having Cole Tracy and Alexander then that point is moot.

LSU had 22 signees in 2018. Six have left for a reason other than graduation.

That means LSU still has 73% of that class on the roster. 73 percent.


From LSU's 24/7 guy:
quote:

Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon

In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.

From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.



Cry me a river little girl. You are funny.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:00 pm to
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Even better that you keep linking to an article that is listed as VIP only lmao.


I am linking a tweet that has all the information needed to prove you are just a troll and don't even know what you are crying like a bitch about.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:01 pm
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:02 pm to
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Did someone say it was awesome or something


Yeah, more than someone. It was mind blowing how more people weren’t disappointed with the class. People were touting it as a class that met needs (which is why O needed to grab a transfer player at QB, CB and K) and addressed depth (which is why LSU was so thin at TE that they claimed they couldn’t run the 2 TE sets they wanted to run.)

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we just couldn't be patient with guys who might contribute as juniors or seniors.


Right but as I pointed out in this thread, look at the commit dates at some of those 3 star recruits.

Cole Smith committed March 2017, Tae Provens June 2017, Zach Sheffer June 2017.

What if instead of those guys being committed over 6 months out, LSU was still looking at other offensive linemen or running backs or tight ends??
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:19 pm to
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I am linking a tweet that has all the information needed to prove you are just a troll and don't even know what you are crying like a bitch about.


Oh the irony. Don’t get banned again!

Also the tweet quite literally does not do what you seem to think it does. I’m not really sure how to spell it out for you because you are simply too dense to understand, or intentionally being ignorant.

I feel like you are probably not as bad in real life. In fact I bet you are actually somewhat tolerable and enjoyable in person. But on here you sure do like to be willfully ignorant.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:28 pm to
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Cry me a river little girl. You are funny.


And you are a misogynistic sociopath ;)

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LSU did not sign 25 players in 2018 moron. Know what the "F" you are talking about before opening your mouth and alerting everyone to the fact that you are indeed an idiot.


Yeah, they did buddy. Tracy, Burrow, and Alexander all accepted a scholarship, one of 25 given out for the 2018 class. You should probably know what the frick you are talking about and alerting everyone to the fact you are indeed an idiot.


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2 players graduated. If you thought LSU was better off having Cole Tracy and Alexander then that point is moot


Never said LSU was better off without Tracy. Sweet straw man argument though. Was merely again pointing out the 1 year rental of 2 players, one worked out very well, one didn’t work out at all.

Kinda like in 2017. Remember these guys?

LINK

Remind me, how many games did Giles and Moss start?

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LSU had 22 signees in 2018. Six have left for a reason other than graduation. That means LSU still has 73% of that class on the roster. 73 percent.


That’s 6 players that left after one year. What happens when more inevitably leave this year?

I’ll tell you what happens. You don’t get to use your buddy Shea’s tweet anymore because suddenly those awful attrition numbers apply to this class as well.

Sad!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Also the tweet quite literally does not do what you seem to think it does


It does exactly what I think it does. You are just too stupid to realize it.

You are crying over the 2018 class losing the lowest rated players and still having 73% of the players who didn't graduate.

I am posting a link in which the LSU 24/7 moderator shows that as of April 2018 the team only had 44 percent of the signed players from 2014-2016 still on the team.

You pick one year to be miserable and cry about. A year that has 73% of the players remaining when there is a three year span that occurred just two years earlier that only has 44% of the players remaining.

Why are you crying about 2018? If they duplicate the same amount of losses in the future 2018 will still have 55% of the signed players.

That is better than the 2014-2016 classes. But keep crying about 2018, it is very funny to watch.
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