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re: Chavis' Defense
Posted on 8/3/09 at 5:56 pm to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 8/3/09 at 5:56 pm to Keys Open Doors
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There are also some great recruits who should be ready to contribute next year like Montgomery.
I thought the consensus was that as good as Montogomery was, he would need a year in the weight room.
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Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:00 pm to NewGuy01
Yeah, I meant for 2010 for the guys like Davenport, Montgomery, and Downs.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:13 pm to Keys Open Doors
Gotta say I'm excited about that group.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:39 pm to chunn
I think it will be somewhat of a mixed bag.
Major improvements:
-Technique and overall coaching at every position
-Won't be disastrously outschemed
-Pass rush should be better just from a scheme standpoint
Major weaknesses:
-Our personnel doesn't fit his scheme perfectly.
Chavis seems to prefer more undersized guys at LB and DE. Guys that may be lean, but can run. Other than Alem, we're down right beefy up front. He has had success with taller, beefier DTs (John Henderson comes to mind), so I think Al Woods could really blow up under him.
LB play is hard to judge. I expect them all to be generally improved. I don't think Cutrera can really run like he prefers, but Riley and Shepard's speed are adequate. Harry Coleman is kind of a prototypical Chavis styled LB. Find the ball, run and destroy.
That said, he's been in the game for a long time. I'm sure he knows how to adjust his scheme to fit the personnel better.
Major improvements:
-Technique and overall coaching at every position
-Won't be disastrously outschemed
-Pass rush should be better just from a scheme standpoint
Major weaknesses:
-Our personnel doesn't fit his scheme perfectly.
Chavis seems to prefer more undersized guys at LB and DE. Guys that may be lean, but can run. Other than Alem, we're down right beefy up front. He has had success with taller, beefier DTs (John Henderson comes to mind), so I think Al Woods could really blow up under him.
LB play is hard to judge. I expect them all to be generally improved. I don't think Cutrera can really run like he prefers, but Riley and Shepard's speed are adequate. Harry Coleman is kind of a prototypical Chavis styled LB. Find the ball, run and destroy.
That said, he's been in the game for a long time. I'm sure he knows how to adjust his scheme to fit the personnel better.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:43 pm to BhamTigah
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I think Chavis is a good dc, but I think the real value comes in the new position coaches. I would put up Chavis coaching linebackers, Brick coaching the d-line, and Cooper coaching secondary against any position coaches around. I like them all, but I really think Cooper will prove to be the real steal in that group.
I agree. I'm not overly impressed with Chavis' scheming (obviously much better than last year's idiots though), but I expect MUCH better player development at each position now under this group of assistants. Look for guys like CJ, Woods, Levingston, Nevis, Riley, Coleman, Peterson, etc to become much better players.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:50 pm to OBUDan
Do you think that he will be able to use the team's depth properly? People seem to think that the same 11 guys are going to be used on every single play, but they are also greatly misinformed about a lot of things.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:55 pm to Keys Open Doors
Yes, the depth will be used much better than it's been since Miles has been here. More rotation on the DL, and I could even see a LB and strong safety rotation as well.
Pelini wore down this defense in 2007 by not substituting enough, Chavis won't do that.
Pelini wore down this defense in 2007 by not substituting enough, Chavis won't do that.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 6:57 pm to ColtsTigers
That seems like the logical thing to do, and I am glad to hear it, but I keep reading that he doesn't like to do nickel or dime packages. 
DLine rotation and nickel packages in specific situations are very important in my opinion.
DLine rotation and nickel packages in specific situations are very important in my opinion.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 7:47 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I keep reading that he doesn't like to do nickel or dime packages.
Yes, his "Nickel package" is called the mustang..Chavis usually beefs up Hs lb's and turns them into DE's..and takes safeties and rb's and turns them into LB's. His scheme is based a lot on what the old Miami Hurricanes did. Great LB coach and reportedly turned down offers from several NFL teams while at UT to coach LB's in the pros...You won't line up in the I and get a 100 yards against Chavis..but he has fits with mis-direction as his teams tend to over pursue...
Posted on 8/3/09 at 7:51 pm to StevieRayVol
Well, as long as he doesn't put slow safeties in the nickel position, it will be an improvement.
Based on what you just wrote, I figured that using quicker but smaller players at defensive end and outside linebacker would be a good way to combat the spread, but you seem to disagree.
Based on what you just wrote, I figured that using quicker but smaller players at defensive end and outside linebacker would be a good way to combat the spread, but you seem to disagree.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 10:41 pm to StevieRayVol
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I keep reading that he doesn't like to do nickel or dime packages.
He doesn't like to switch out for the nickel. If you have a safety with cover skills (like Ron Brooks, for example), you can cover the 3rd WR without substituting.
He definitely does dime packages.
Posted on 8/3/09 at 11:40 pm to chunn
If I'm thinking of the right nick chunn, that is the goofiest son of a bitch I've ever met
Posted on 8/4/09 at 12:01 am to TigerBait45
He does seem to have some problems with spread offenses. He's given up 89 points to UF over the last 2 years and has never beaten Urbie. But other spread teams give him problems too. He has some problems with in game adjustments (2001 SECCG) and playing WAY too cautious late in the game and 3rd and Long (or 3rd and Chavis as it's known in Knoxville). But IMO, the positives outweigh the negatives for Chavis. You got a good one.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 12:05 am to volwarrior33
Dude, your offense can't get a freakin' 1st down against Florida, or they trip over themselves and fumble at the one yard line. So I don't want to hear anything about Chavis being the problem against Florida.
Fact is, Pelini had no clue what to do against them, and I expect Chavis to do better than he did.
Fact is, Pelini had no clue what to do against them, and I expect Chavis to do better than he did.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 12:49 am to Brendoni
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hmm, how many points did florida score on tennessee's defense last year? 20
+1
Posted on 8/4/09 at 12:53 am to volwarrior33
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3rd and Chavis as it's known in Knoxville
Well, it's known as 3rd and Miles here in Red. CLM veto!
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You got a good one
We'll see. Merci
Posted on 8/4/09 at 1:47 am to ColtsTigers
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Fact is, Pelini had no clue what to do against them
Posted on 8/4/09 at 2:00 am to Rocket
Someone else pointed out that LSU's defensive woes actually started in the last seven games of 2007.
And tOSU fans are on record as saying their 2007 team was inferior to their 2006 squad.
If you compare what UF's defense did to the Buckeyes vs. what Pelini's team accomplished, you'd see Florida held the Buckeyes to 14 while gave up 24 to an inferior tOSU squad.
And tOSU fans are on record as saying their 2007 team was inferior to their 2006 squad.
If you compare what UF's defense did to the Buckeyes vs. what Pelini's team accomplished, you'd see Florida held the Buckeyes to 14 while gave up 24 to an inferior tOSU squad.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 4:08 am to Rocket
Florida went up and down the field against us in Tiger Stadium two years ago for the first three quarters. We won the game, but I wouldn't say it was exactly a great defensive performance.
Posted on 8/4/09 at 4:12 am to ColtsTigers
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Florida went up and down the field against us in Tiger Stadium two years ago for the first three quarters. We won the game, but I wouldn't say it was exactly a great defensive performance.
We won the game because of the fluke play where the pass hit off Ingram's helmet on a 5 yard in route. We intercepted the ball when it popped up in the air--if it wasn't for that, then we don't even sniff beating UF that year.
Colts, I can't believe you are awake--do you ever sleep? (I can't talk either
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