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re: Benton talks.......

Posted on 2/12/09 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 2/12/09 at 7:58 pm to
I must be the only one that believes with what has been reported on this entire Saga.

Benton was concerned about PT at LSU, thus the change of heart to AU!


There is more to it, I have typed it 12 times already...ain't doing it again
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:49 pm to
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Which he explained. He even said that Reuben was going to LSU regardless. Therefore you can logically ignore this contrived "fact".


Oh....my......Gawd!

Do you guys just make this shite up or what? At least have the decency to claim that your cousin's hair dresser heard it from the Uncle of Mr. Randle's yard guy.

Ok, you guys are right. Benton desperately wanted LSU to pull their offer so he asked Mr Randle, whom he barely knows, if we would be so kind as to go on the radio on the night before signing day and lie about the Randles having a problem with LSU signing Benton, all so that Benton could thereby trick LSU into pulling their offer. Makes perfect sense to me.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:53 pm to
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WRONG! Benton visited Auburn over 2 weeks prior to NSD. If he received an offer (which I believe he did) than he had choices.


WRONG! Of course he had a freaking AU offer, he signed with AU. Is this thing on? Now, given that we already know he had the freaking AU offer, what the frick where his choices? Sign with AU or ________________________________? That's what I thought.

He sure as hell didn't have an LSU offer on NSD now did he?
This post was edited on 2/13/09 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/13/09 at 12:04 am to
I can agree with just about everything you say but this:

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What we do know is that both Emmitt Randle and Benton both said that LSU isn't where Benton wanted to be.


No, we don't know that and I surely don't believe that. As absurd as that story sounds, lets assume it could be true that Emmitt and Benton suddenly became buddy-buddy somehow and Emmitt became deeply concerned that his new buddy wanted to go to AU instead of LSU, why the hell would LSU need to pull Benton's schollie for benton to go to AU? Why would Emmitt go on the radio and lie about it being an issue if Benton gets an LSU offer (even though Emmitt knew Benton didn't want to go to LSU.)

On top of all that, why would Benton be quoted in the paper as saying he is signing with LSU in the morning if he didn't want to go to LSU. Why not say no comment or why not say that LSU pulled my schollie so I'm screwed? Why lie and say I'm going to LSU.

The simple answer is that Benton, Bradshaw, Myles and Emmitt have not lied about how it went down.

This post was edited on 2/13/09 at 5:04 pm
Posted by tigerbait65
Navarre, FL
Member since Jan 2004
10 posts
Posted on 2/13/09 at 3:34 pm to
In reality, the rules says you can enter the draft after being out of HS for 3 years. There is actually a good chance if he has a good year at Auburn he could bolt for the NFL. If you remember Fitzgerald only played 2 years at Pitt because he went to a Prep school. Maybe, he really was afarid of playing time and not having a shot at the NFL after just one year of college. Seems form his past he doesn't like to work hard for what he gets.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 2/13/09 at 5:47 pm to
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No, we don't know that


Actually, I do. Randle said it on the radio and Benton said he knew he was going to AU on his visit in that article.

Benton did say that he was signing with LSU last Tuesday as well, but we don't know if he was just telling the paper that so LSU and Bradshaw wouldn't hound him.

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I surely don't believe that


Believe what you want.

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As absurd as that story sounds, lets assume it could be true that Emmitt and Benton suddenly became buddy-buddy somehow and Emmitt became deeply concerned that his new buddy wanted to go to AU instead of LSU,


I don't know it to be true the way you put it.

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why the hell would LSU need to pull Benton's schollie for benton to go to AU?


For all we know, Benton told Miles Tuesday evening that he wanted to go to Auburn.

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Why would Emmitt go on the radio and lie about it being an issue if Benton gets an LSU offer (even though Emmitt knew Benton didn't want to go to LSU.)


Benton getting a schollie offer wasn't the issue, from what E. Randle said. It was, as he said, that the staff were telling the Randle's one thing and Benton another thing about who they'd compete against.

It wasn't like Randle's dad just up and called this radio station while this radio station was talking about something unrelated to Randle. Earlier that day, Randle's dad had told a local NBC reporter that he had some concerns about Randle going to LSU supposedly(actually, I saw the report later that night). That local reporter went on this radio station at the beginning of its broadcast and said that he talked to E. Randle and that ER said if Benton was going to LSU, Randle wasn't. ER then called in later clarifying himself that what the LSU coaches were telling the Randle's and Benton were two different things.

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On top of all that, why would Benton be quoted in the paper as saying he is signing with LSU in the morning if he didn't want to go to LSU. Why not say no comment or why not say that LSU pulled my schollie so I'm screwed? Why lie and say I'm going to


Who knows. There is a lot that doesn't add up and it main remain an enigma forever.

One thing we haven't heard is what took place on Tuesday evening between Benton and Miles. All I've heard/read is Miles say he had to make a "hard,fast decision" on Benton. I haven't seen/heard Benton comment on that either.

I'm trying to hunt down some audio from last week where supposedly new AU TE signee Philip Lutzenkirchen told WJOX that he was told by the AU coaches that Benton had committed to AU on his visit, which Dmitch alluded to being the case.



Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 2/13/09 at 7:34 pm to
Rocket, I honestly didn't understand most of your post or your points so I can't respond to it other than to say that your version of the story seems to accept Mr. Randle's version, which is that he was mostly looking out for Benton's interest so he was trying to help Benton by getting his schollie pulled by LSU.

If that story sounds with a galaxy of plasible to you, then fine by me.

Of course, Mr. Randle's altruistic intentions never came to light until the majority of LSU fans went off on the concept of Mr. Randle forcing LSU to dump Benton.

I'm not trying to change your mind on this topic. I'm just posting what I believe to be a rational view of an embarrasing situation.


Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 2/13/09 at 7:45 pm to
Believe what you want. I'm not making my mind up as to what happened. I'm really just posting what we know and what might have happened.

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accept Mr. Randle's version, which is that he was mostly looking out for Benton's interest so he was trying to help Benton by getting his schollie pulled by LSU.


I certainly don't recall ever saying that. You're almost putting words in my mouth.

And I don't know that ER was forcing anyone to do anything. From what he said, if Benton was going to LSU, that's fine, we'll go somewheres else.

Even if what you believe is true and it might be(I haven't said unequivocally it wasn't), Miles then did what was in best interests of the program because there is no guarantee Benton will be approved by the NCAA clearinghouse.
Posted by EONOmyBAdButLSUgREAT
new orleans
Member since Feb 2009
25 posts
Posted on 2/13/09 at 9:17 pm to
benton..
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 12:09 am to
Sorry if I misinterpreted your posts and/or put words in your mouth. Didn't intend to.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 12:27 am to
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EONOmyBAdButLSUgREAT
Please try and hold back the class.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 1:51 am to
Where did the reports that he had commited to LSU come from?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56863 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 10:20 am to
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Imagine that, Benton fails to mention that LSU pulled his schollie offer and that he had no choice in the matter.

Instead, he tries to argue that he chose AU. Shocking.


Good post.

You'd have to be a fricking idiot to think that these quotes from Benton clarify the incident. You've got quotes from Randle's father, Miles, and even Benton two days before signing day saying other things.

If you put the pieces together, it's pretty clear that while Miles wanted both, that was not an option...so Benton's offer was revoked to secure Randle. The reasons why they couldn't co-exist will probably never be confirmed, but I think it's pretty clear what happened.
Posted by MiketheTiger69
Moore/Norman, Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2004
3315 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 11:08 am to
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If you put the pieces together, it's pretty clear that while Miles wanted both, that was not an option...so Benton's offer was revoked to secure Randle. The reasons why they couldn't co-exist will probably never be confirmed, but I think it's pretty clear what happened.



In Les' own words, he had to make "a hard and fast decision" regarding Benton. To me, it would appear by that comment that he was left with an either/or situation and ER's comments on the radio would seem to support that.
Therefore Les was left with absolutely no choice-take Randle and say adios amigo to Benton. It would have been deavstating not only to this class but to the program as a whole to allow the #1 prospect in the state to leave for the second time in three years-especially to lose RR to Saban and Bama!
In no small way was the entire future of the LSU fb program under Les on the line with RR's recruitment and signing. I'm sure he took no pleasure in Benton going to Auburn after sticking with the kid for 3 yrs. Every other matter regarding this situation, pt, competition, etc. takes a back seat to the big picture here.
It's a shame that a lot of good decent people were sullied in all of this.
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 11:14 am to
LSU coaches were lying to benton and randle. Not expecting them to talk about potentially competing for the same spot. Dang, coach that is like f*&king sisters and thinking they are not going to eventually tell each other.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 2/14/09 at 11:26 am to
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LSU coaches were lying to benton and randle. Not expecting them to talk about potentially competing for the same spot. Dang, coach that is like f*&king sisters and thinking they are not going to eventually tell each other.


Put the crack pipe down. LSU didn't lie to anyone. Benton got carried away and exaggerated about some stuff and it came back and bit him on the arse. Chit happens.
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