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re: Bakari Guice Question

Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:58 am to
Posted by mrbossier
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2008
199 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:58 am to
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kind of hard for him to protect his son if he lives 6 hours away dont ya think?
Depends on what kind of parent he is. You actually think Guice had more influence than his father?
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35462 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:59 am to
no one knows any of that shite.

give it up.
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6146 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:59 am to
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Depends on what kind of parent he is. You actually think Guice had more influence than his father?


Possibly, we don't know their family dynamic. He certainly was around him more.
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6310 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:08 am to
Now I see in the Advocate that there was even a damn Louisiana State Senator at this punks announcement! Can you imagine what would happen to an Alabama State Senator who appeared at a Bama kids conference to announce to LSU. Damn, how far West Monroe has fallen!
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:11 am to
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Only Nick could have these bama plants promoting bama throughout the state of Louisiana. At some point people may start to regret that LSU ever hired that snake as its head coach.


Look you can't blame Satan for doing his job, he is being smart about it and putting plants all through Louisiana because he knows what kind of fertile recruiting ground our great state is.

The blame lies directly with LSU's coaches, we have to be smarter than this and fight fire with fire. We can do the same thing that Bama is doing? We underspend Bama woefully in recruiting, this is fact not fiction. Well we need to start matching war chest to war chest and start spending more money on the same things that Bama does. I am pretty sure if Guice was coaching at our summer camps no way CRob commits to Bama.

We just need to be smarter about how we continue to recruit going forward. I am not saying how we are recruiting today is broken, it isn't. But plain and simple Bama out spends us in recruiting by a wide margin, we need to step up our recruiting budget and spend money. Bama has been very successful in recruiting no one can deny that, so start doing what they have been doing. If it is working for them, it will work for us.
Posted by Memphis
Fenway Park
Member since Jun 2013
6302 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:12 am to
quote:

West Monroe has fallen

fire les
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:24 am to
#freewestmonroe

Posted by Memphis
Fenway Park
Member since Jun 2013
6302 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:25 am to
#justiceforshows
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:36 am to
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Well we need to start matching war chest to war chest and start spending more money on the same things that Bama does.


I deplore the fact that the glorious game of college football is coming down to spending wars.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6796 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:43 am to
Only thing we can do is play the game. These guys need to be pointed out and shamed on here exactly like this thread is doing.

Going out and negative recruiting coaches and handlers that have formed relationships with certain kids over years could backfire on the LSU staff, but there's nothing wrong with pointing out their ulterior motives on here.

There's a lot of people on this site who have a lot of connections with high schools around the state. People with Alabama ties shouldn't be hard to spot, especially if they have coaching positions. Put their names on here. Hell put their names on the OT!
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:43 am to
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I deplore the fact that the glorious game of college football is coming down to spending wars.


until the NCAA decides to pull their heads out of their asses, it is back to the old way of recruiting
Posted by Memphis
Fenway Park
Member since Jun 2013
6302 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:54 am to
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back to the old way of recruiting

everyone gets a trans am!
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 11:55 am
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:54 am to
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I deplore the fact that the glorious game of college football is coming down to spending wars.


I do to, it sucks it puts a bad light on College Football but the fact is that is what is happening. So we can either do nothing and keep the status quo or we can recognize the situation and try and make changes that will help us put bigger and stronger fences around our borders. We are not going to keep them all, but we can do a better job of trying to be smarter at what we do.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:03 pm to
It would help if we beat Bamas' arse.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129080 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:06 pm to
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he blame lies directly with LSU's coaches, we have to be smarter than this and fight fire with fire. We can do the same thing that Bama is doing? We underspend Bama woefully in recruiting, this is fact not fiction. Well we need to start matching war chest to war chest and start spending more money on the same things that Bama does.


Tennessee has likely spent more than us in recruiting. All that money that is spent on plane trips, lodging, mailed letters, etc. They don't have much choice with the plane trips considering the lack of in-state talent.

Maybe considering that LSU has enough in-state talent for less plane trips, they may not have to spend as much money.

Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

until the NCAA decides to pull their heads out of their asses, it is back to the old way of recruiting


Unfortunately that statement looks to be correct. How much more blatant do you have to be than the Nevin Shapiro/Miami case and so far nothing? I am willing to wager that the self imposed bans that Miami put on are going to be the majority of what happens to Miami. The NCAA might give a token more just to save face, but that is it. Oregon gets off from the Lache crap with nothing!!

It just looks like be smarter about what you are doing and you don't have to worry about it unless the player turns you in like at SMU.
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4667 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:12 pm to
The fact that you rantards are blaming West Monroe High School for Cam's decision is absurd. West Monroe remains a huge supporter of LSU and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Cam brought these associations with him to WMHS, and they made a disappointing choice but it was Robinson's to live with. Alabama has made headway with many elite athletes in Louisiana, not just up here, and particularly in the African American community. Bama wins and wins big. Beat them on the field and you'll win more of those hard fought recruiting battles.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43339 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:16 pm to
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Well we need to start matching war chest to war chest and start spending more money on the same things that Bama does.


Back away from the ledge, son.

Bama has been on probation about 83 times.

We're doing damn fine in recruiting just as we are. Show a program that has recruited better the last 10 years. It doesn't exist.

I guarantee you we will field a LT the next 3-4 years that will protect our QB, spring backs for big gains and love playing for LSU.

It's all gonna be ok.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:18 pm to
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Maybe considering that LSU has enough in-state talent for less plane trips, they may not have to spend as much money.


You are definitely correct we have more in-state talent than Tennessee. But last time I checked we weren't truly competing with Tennessee to win the SEC West, it was Alabama. And last time I checked it was Alabama that has won 3 of the last 4 BCS National championships not Tennessee.

Look I am not saying to spend money just to spend money, I am saying spend more money but spend it smartly. Obviously Tennessee from their record is doing something wrong, but Bama from their record is doing something right. Why do we need to spend to emulate Tennessee the less successful program, why can't we emulate more of what Bama is doing the more successful program.

If you try and deny what Alabama is doing is not working, obviously you are wrong. What is wrong with taking some of the things they are doing and just doing it better in our state?
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1324 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:28 pm to
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The blame lies directly with LSU's coaches


I think that it's been a few seasons now, but someone (maybe JJ27) warned this board that while Frank Wilson was building a fence around New Orleans, it would be to the detriment of North Louisiana. How prophetic that turned out to be. Think about the majority of this boards opinion of Coach Stud. I believe that he's the coach over this area ( other than when Les himself shows up). Does anyone really believe that Coach Stud is "relating" to the North Louisiana recruits that have left the last few years? No chance! I'm sure that someone could name numerous good recruits that left North La. for another state.

Regarding CRobs dad - Steve Foley. I wouldn't pretend to know about their relationship, but he does live in Houston. It has to be tough to have a real relationship that far away. Therefore, CRob (and probably all others that don't have a Dad at home) is influenced by those close to him.

Having said that, in his interview he talked about his son needing to work hard, and be a man, for his career to work out at the next level. He seemed to like an intelligent man that knows what it takes to succeed in college and beyond.

Right now CROB is a giant person. He's 330 pounds pushing around 230 pound kids on the field. That would be the equivalent of me blocking my 12 year old son. I'm sure there's people that watched him last year and last week that see that's all that he does at this point. No footwork or technique at this point. He just uses his weight as leverage. I'm sure there were some people last week vs Neville that saw him on defense being hit by those guys. With good coaching in the future, I see him as being a mauling right tackle only. With great coaching, he may turn into a great left tackle (like his dad said - "if he wants it bad enough"). It's probably not fair, but at this point he reminds me Carnell Stewart. I believe that he was a 5 star can't miss prospect also.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 12:39 pm
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