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re: adoree staying out west?

Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:04 pm to
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"Smart" would be getting a degree from USC over LSU, UF, and Tennessee.


Florida is as good or better a university than USC.

Posted by 318Boss
Everywhere
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:10 pm to
How good is Florida's Track team
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:14 pm to
I find it interesting I haven't seen too much talk about his track ability throughout his recruitment and what LSU offers in that area. I really think nobody knows where Adoree is leaning right now except his parents. He's been pretty quiet throughout the process. Les does get a NSD surprise every year.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:18 pm to
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"Smart" would be getting a degree from USC over LSU, UF, and Tennessee.
Just so you'll know, "smart" would actually be getting a degree that provides for best job, salary vs COL, etc.
So, despite presumptions to the contrary, "smart" in this case is not necessarily USC, and certainly so not by any significant margin.

E.g.,
4yr LSU grads earn an average of $47,300
4yr USC grads earn an average of $50,900

Seems great for USC, eh?
However, one of the major differential salary determinants in this case is COL.

Think about it.
What are the locales where most of the respective grads seek jobs?

Starting jobs in California will certainly pay higher salaries because cost of living is so high. They have to pay more. That obligatory increase skews income numbers upward for USC grads, as the same regional COL concept skews downward for LSU grads.

Unfortunately, in California, your USC $50,900 is left wanting. Your guy would require a 33% raise, to $67.5K, in order to match the LSU grad's $47.3K salary in purchase power.

So good luck with "smart".
Things are not always what they seem.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:38 pm to
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"Smart" would be getting a degree from USC over LSU, UF, and Tennessee. Florida is as good or better a university than USC.


USC is ranked in the top 25 universities in the country, tied with ucla.

Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

"Smart" would be getting a degree from USC over LSU, UF, and Tennessee.Just so you'll know, "smart" would actually be getting a degree that provides for best job, salary vs COL, etc. So, despite presumptions to the contrary, "smart" in this case is not necessarily USC, and certainly so not by any significant margin. E.g., 4yr LSU grads earn an average of $47,300 4yr USC grads earn an average of $50,900 Seems great for USC, eh? However, one of the major differential salary determinants in this case is COL. Think about it. What are the locales where most of the respective grads seek jobs? Starting jobs in California will certainly pay higher salaries because cost of living is so high. They have to pay more. That obligatory increase skews income numbers upward for USC grads, as the same regional COL concept skews downward for LSU grads. Unfortunately, in California, your USC $50,900 is left wanting. Your guy would require a 33% raise, to $67.5K, in order to match the LSU grad's $47.3K salary in purchase power. So good luck with "smart". Things are not always what they seem.


Not going to get into a "pissing" contest over schools (because there really is not one to be had), but mid-career graduates of USC are tied for 54th out of all universities in the country for earnings (not including graduate students). LSU is tied for 195th with the same criteria.

A little discrepancy there I would say.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:47 pm to
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My understanding though is that only UF and USC's Track coaches have been actively involved (in-home visits) with AJ. LSU and Tennessee have not. Our track program speaks for itself.


Florida's and USC's speak just as loud.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48575 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:51 pm to
Are you people really on our recruiting board comparing how great each university in hopes a recruit will go there?

GTFO.

Where's our admin? This board has been filled with other teams fans talking bullshite for 2 days....

This is about LSU recruiting...
Posted by JimmyHDeridderhigh
Boosies free... Now what?
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

How good is Florida's Track team

Somehow this still feels too soon
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:07 pm to
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He has not made this melodramatic, and has been honest and forthright, which is the exception and not the rule nowadays.


Has left USC off of his list of finalists on more than one occasion, even though many think they are the leader.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Has left USC off of his list of finalists on more than one occasion, even though many think they are the leader.
maybe he is being honest and forthright?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Not going to get into a "pissing" contest over schools (because there really is not one to be had), but mid-career graduates of USC are tied for 54th out of all universities in the country for earnings (not including graduate students). LSU is tied for 195th with the same criteria.
You missed the point.
Mid-career there is a 15% earning difference, but that difference remains respective to locales with a 30% COL difference.
The latter drives the former, not the other way around.
But in the case of grads who remain in the vicinity that driver coupled with the USC degree falls far short of creating purchasing equivalence.
That is the point.

Doesn't really matter if one school ranks 1st, and the other 1001st in sequence. Rank is less important than region in situations where COL differential exceeds sequence income spread. In this case it does. Put simply, if the income spread between #1 and #1001 is $15K but the COL spread is $30K, purchase power for #1001 > #1.

Put even more simply, you take the rank. Well done.
I'll take the larger house, faster car, fatter retirement, and we'll both be happy.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Are you people really on our recruiting board comparing how great each university in hopes a recruit will go there?


Actually we're not.

My advice would be GRTT.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:34 pm to
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He has not made this melodramatic, and has been honest and forthright, which is the exception and not the rule nowadays. Has left USC off of his list of finalists on more than one occasion, even though many think they are the leader.


It looks like the final four-- he plans to announce either today or tomorrow according to direct quotes-- is going to be USC, LSU, Florida, and Tennessee.

Many think if his final visit this weekend is to USC (which he has said it might be), then the Trojans are the team to beat.

One thing to take into consideration is that he never has officially visited UF.

If he chose the Gates that would seem peculiar to me.

We'll see.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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134955 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

This is about LSU recruiting...
Agree.

There are a number of kids on these squads who will make it to the NFL.
Adoree is likely one of them.
That's one big reason why DBU would be a great choice for him. Not a lot of relevance other than the SC guy raised the issue.

Many of these recruits will not make it to the league though. That is where the degree, and discussion about it is relevant.

Pragmatically those players, as LSU grads, will enjoy standard of living and lifestyle likely exceeding other programs, i.e., USC.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Not going to get into a "pissing" contest over schools (because there really is not one to be had), but mid-career graduates of USC are tied for 54th out of all universities in the country for earnings (not including graduate students). LSU is tied for 195th with the same criteria. You missed the point. Mid-career there is a 15% earning difference, but that difference remains respective to locales with a 30% COL difference. The latter drives the former, not the other way around. But in the case of grads who remain in the vicinity that driver coupled with the USC degree falls far short of creating purchasing equivalence. That is the point. Doesn't really matter if one school ranks 1st, and the other 1001st in sequence. Rank is less important than region in situations where COL differential exceeds sequence income spread. In this case it does. Put simply, if the income spread between #1 and #1001 is $15K but the COL spread is $30K, purchase power for #1001 > #1. Put even more simply, you take the rank. Well done. I'll take the larger house, faster car, fatter retirement, and we'll both be happy.


A thread for another board at another time. Some recruitniks are having a bad day.

I am just relaying information on AJ from the West Coast, and what we are hearing in general for a recruit considering both of our schools..

I don't want to be banned because someone got their panties in a wad.

Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2622 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Pragmatically those players, as LSU grads, will enjoy standard of living and lifestyle likely exceeding other programs, i.e., USC.


Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:55 pm to
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I am just relaying information on AJ from the West Coast, and what we are hearing in general for a recruit considering both of our schools..


bullshite. Are you really trying to say that Adoree Jackson mentioned the mid-career median income of USC graduates as a consideration?

You better empty those boots, son.
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3352 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 5:20 pm to
"Hearing dad wants #Vols for Adoree Jackson but he prefers #Gators -- not sure where that puts #USC" mike farrell just tweeted that so i guess we are out of it
Posted by Handsome Harry
Minot, North Dakota
Member since Sep 2010
1330 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 5:26 pm to
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One thing to take into consideration is that he never has officially visited UF.



He isn't going to Florida. It's USC. After hearing him talk about the opportunities USC offers as far as contacts and knowing the right people I could tell he was sold on that. He is a very likable kid and will thrive at USC. I would love for him to come to LSU but to be honest for his situation I do think USC makes more sense just because he will be exposed to more.
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