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re: adoree staying out west?
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:19 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:19 am to Ace Midnight
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Adoree going to play lots of offense next year and cb down the road. Will do honey badger role as well. We get him by offering offense too. He's as good a playmaker as speedy.
You get him by offering track too. AJ is a serious contender to make Team USA in the long jump for the 2016 Olympic Games.
This is just as important in where he ends up as football is.
He is not an exclusive football player.
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:38 am to A2
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You get him by offering track too.
Tell that to Tony Brown.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:43 am to Ace Midnight
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You get him by offering track too. Tell that to Tony Brown.
I did not realize they were the same person.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:49 am to A2
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I did not realize they were the same person.
They are not - Brown was somehow convinced by Bama that Bama was a better place to do both (despite Saban's relative notoriety of quashing all that once a kid gets on campus) despite his sister's place on the LSU ladies track team.
(What I'm saying is that kids go where they want to go and say whatever they want as to the reasons why - rationality and logic don't always enter into it. Adoree can do track and football at USCw, LSU, Florida, Tennessee - wherever. It is up to him. I think our case is better for all around guys, particularly DBs, making a strong case for the NFL.
We just put 3 rookies on the all rookie team for 2013, including 2 DBs (Reid and Mathieu) - plus Peterson just made his 3rd straight pro bowl since entering the league 3 seasons ago.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:57 am to A2
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I did not realize they were the same person.
Adoree may want to be an Olympian until he realizes they don't get paid. That is unless you're Usain Bolt or a professional basketball or tennis player that can afford to play in the Olympics.
He may love track, but I believe he's a smart kid who is also practical about where he is and what he has the potential to accomplish.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:58 am to Ace Midnight
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They are not - Brown was somehow convinced by Bama that Bama was a better place to do both (despite Saban's relative notoriety of quashing all that once a kid gets on campus) despite his sister's place on the LSU ladies track team. (What I'm saying is that kids go where they want to go and say whatever they want as to the reasons why - rationality and logic don't always enter into it. Adoree can do track and football at USCw, LSU, Florida, Tennessee - wherever. It is up to him. I think our case is better for all around guys, particularly DBs, making a strong case for the NFL. We just put 3 rookies on the all rookie team for 2013, including 2 DBs (Reid and Mathieu) - plus Peterson just made his 3rd straight pro bowl since entering the league 3 seasons ago.
I get your premise, but AJ is a far different person than TB.
Jackson has a legitimate shot at making the Olympic Team. Brown does not.
AJ has been extremely mature about the whole process.
Getting to "the league" is not as relevant to him about making a decision-- as has been said by him before-- as it is to a lot of people here that think that will sway his decision.
You can get to the league from any school.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:01 pm to A2
What does adoree long jump?
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:06 pm to A2
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Jackson has a legitimate shot at making the Olympic Team.
And I understand this. I would suspect that we have the best history, over the past quarter century, of world class track athletes also playing football - whether that was Eddie Kennison, Chris Cummings, Bennie Brazell (made the finals in the Olympic 400m hurdles), Xavier Carter or Trindon Holliday - it has been more of an enhancement than a detractor for these guys.
We also have a pretty good record of allowing guys to play both football and baseball.
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You can get to the league from any school.
True, but some schools are better than others, and at certain positions - I think we're the clear leader, currently, in DBs, and rapidly becoming a leader in WRs.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:24 pm to A2
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You can get to the league from any school.
It's not that simple. There are a lot of top ex-recruits at home that wish it were that simple though. It very much depends on the opportunity, exposure, the coach, the system, and good fortune. IMO, it has less to do with track and more to do with getting detailed information about how he will be used possibly both offensively and defensively in football. I believe he's just trying to make sure he isn't getting "snowballed" by anyone which is smart on his part.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:28 pm to Ace Midnight
double post.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:38 pm to Ace Midnight
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Jackson has a legitimate shot at making the Olympic Team. And I understand this. I would suspect that we have the best history, over the past quarter century, of world class track athletes also playing football - whether that was Eddie Kennison, Chris Cummings, Bennie Brazell (made the finals in the Olympic 400m hurdles), Xavier Carter or Trindon Holliday - it has been more of an enhancement than a detractor for these guys. We also have a pretty good record of allowing guys to play both football and baseball.
Again, I get your premise. However, former players telling you about balancing dual sports is not the same as coaches that develop you. Quincy Watts who is an Olympic individual Gold medalist and also played football at USC, would be one of his coaches.
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You can get to the league from any school. True, but some schools are better than others, and at certain positions - I think we're the clear leader, currently, in DBs, and rapidly becoming a leader in WRs.
This type of logic can be spun a lot of ways by most major programs. Everyone can point to players at most positions to demonstrate their success.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:50 pm to Will2nd
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I did not realize they were the same person. Adoree may want to be an Olympian until he realizes they don't get paid. That is unless you're Usain Bolt or a professional basketball or tennis player that can afford to play in the Olympics. He may love track, but I believe he's a smart kid who is also practical about where he is and what he has the potential to accomplish.
No offense, but I am sure Adoree probably already knows what sports "pay". These kids don't live in a bubble.
What may be "smart" and "pratical" to you may not mean the same thing to him.
"Smart" would be getting a degree from USC over LSU, UF, and Tennessee. "Pratical" would be going to Illinois or Mizzou to play near your family, or going to a school that has put two of his classmates (Robert Woods and now Marqise Lee) in the league in the last two years.
But that is all conjecture fabricated by us fans that like to follow recruiting.
I hope Adoree makes the decision he is happy with, and not what would make me or you happy.
He is a good kid, like Fournette. He has not made this melodramatic, and has been honest and forthright, which is the exception and not the rule nowadays.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:56 pm to A2
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"Smart" would be getting a degree from USC over LSU, UF, and Tennessee.
Really depends on what he's majoring in, but the point stands.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:26 pm to A2
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Quincy Watts who is an Olympic individual Gold medalist and also played football at USC, would be one of his coaches.
I'm not here to debate how good (or not) USCw's track team is - but you are aware that Dennis Shaver is LSU's head track coach, right? And the aforementioned Bennie Brazell is one of the assistant's.
Shaver highlights (just at LSU):
22 Olympians
6 Olympic Medalists
39 NCAA Champion athletes winning 51 NCAA event titles
19 NCAA Champion Relay Teams
Athletes have earned 453 All-America honors in 31 years of coaching
65 SEC Champion athletes winning 132 SEC event titles
32 SEC Champion Relay Teams
280 SEC Academic Honor Roll selections in eight seasons as LSU’s head coach
2008 & 2012 NCAA Women’s Outdoor Coach of the Year
7-time SEC Women’s Coach of the Year
4-time USTFCCCA Women’s South Central Region Coach of the Year
2007 USTFCCCA Women’s Mideast Region Coach of the Year
2003 USTCA Assistant Coach of the Year
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:30 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:adoree is probably going to be out in 3 years anyway, so while the point would stand in a perfect world, it's pretty moot in reality
Really depends on what he's majoring in, but the point stands.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:36 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:36 pm to baytiger
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Really depends on what he's majoring in, but the point stands. adoree is probably going to be out in 3 years anyway, so while the point would stand in a perfect world, it's pretty moot in reality
You can't guess if he will be out in three years. What if he gets injured, redshirts to focus on the 2016 Games, or myriad of other issues that could occur?
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:45 pm to Ace Midnight
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Quincy Watts who is an Olympic individual Gold medalist and also played football at USC, would be one of his coaches. I'm not here to debate how good (or not) USCw's track team is - but you are aware that Dennis Shaver is LSU's head track coach, right? And the aforementioned Bennie Brazell is one of the assistant's. Shaver highlights (just at LSU): 22 Olympians 6 Olympic Medalists 39 NCAA Champion athletes winning 51 NCAA event titles 19 NCAA Champion Relay Teams Athletes have earned 453 All-America honors in 31 years of coaching 65 SEC Champion athletes winning 132 SEC event titles 32 SEC Champion Relay Teams 280 SEC Academic Honor Roll selections in eight seasons as LSU’s head coach 2008 & 2012 NCAA Women’s Outdoor Coach of the Year 7-time SEC Women’s Coach of the Year 4-time USTFCCCA Women’s South Central Region Coach of the Year 2007 USTFCCCA Women’s Mideast Region Coach of the Year 2003 USTCA Assistant Coach of the Year
We have a new T&F coach since Ron Allice retired (325 All-American btw) last year.
My understanding though is that only UF and USC's Track coaches have been actively involved (in-home visits) with AJ. LSU and Tennessee have not.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:47 pm to A2
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You can't guess if he will be out in three years. What if he gets injured, redshirts to focus on the 2016 Games, or myriad of other issues that could occur?
And you don't know what he'd major in, so to say USC would be a better school to get a degree from is kind of pointless. That said, he could be successful with a degree from any of the 4 main schools mentioned.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:48 pm to A2
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My understanding though is that only UF and USC's Track coaches have been actively involved (in-home visits) with AJ. LSU and Tennessee have not.
Our track program speaks for itself.
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