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247: Elite 2023 recruits see NIL as a matter of respect

Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:59 am
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:59 am
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247Sports anonymously surveyed 93 players at the 2023 All-American Bowl, asking them on a scale of 1-5 how much NIL factored into their recruitments with five meaning the most and one the least. The average answer was 2.1. A moderate factor, but a factor, nonetheless.

Just under 42% of players said NIL was at least a 3 on a 5-point scale in terms of importance while 34.4% players answered with a 1. Notably, 18 players said they already have agents. Of that group, they averaged a 2.7 on a 5-point scale in terms of NIL importance.

For Miami running back signee Mark Fletcher, the No. 168 player in the Top247, NIL was just a single factor among many. But he does consider NIL offers a matter of respect.

“I don’t think you want to go somewhere where, like, you don’t seem appreciated as much,” Fletcher said. “It’s how you’re viewed as a player and if you’re a priority to coaches. And I’m pretty sure that’s how most recruits feel.”

This was echoed by Florida defensive line signee and top 100 recruit Kamran James: “It shows how far a school is willing to go for you.”

This isn’t necessarily the consensus. As the anonymous survey showed, there are still a decent segment of top prospects who largely ignored NIL influences in their recruitment.

LSU four-star signees linebacker Whit Weeks and offensive tackle DJ Chester are in that camp. In fact, Chester’s dad largely kept him in the dark about NIL. In Chester’s words: “He didn’t want my head to get too big.”

Both future Tigers said their performances at LSU will matter far more in the long run for making money than anything promised out of high school, especially because they both know NIL money can be taken away.

“The school sets you up for all the connections later in life,” Weeks said. “NIL is quick money that is easy to spend.”

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:14 am to
Good stuff. And not really surprising. I can certainly appreciate the respect angle.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:15 am to
Cap on the job as usual.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:28 am to
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For Miami running back signee Mark Fletcher, the No. 168 player in the Top247, NIL was just a single factor among many. But he does consider NIL offers a matter of respect.

“I don’t think you want to go somewhere where, like, you don’t seem appreciated as much

Oh my sweet summer child.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7293 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:09 am to
On paper, nothing he said was wrong. If one school has a $100k offer and another has $10k, it would seem on paper that the larger offer appreciates you more.

Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:20 am to
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On paper, nothing he said was wrong. If one school has a $100k offer and another has $10k, it would seem on paper that the larger offer appreciates you more.


Oh, it absolutely can be wrong.

If Miami offers a DE $100K and LSU offers $10k, which offer is better?
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:42 am to
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But he does consider NIL offers a matter of respect


These kids need to understand that this phrase turns off more people than it turns on.

But, it is a free country.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17869 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:54 am to
The word respect is overused and misunderstood by this generation. He means appreciated.
Posted by RussellSheppardsPie
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2018
2001 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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Florida defensive line signee and top 100 recruit Kamran James: “It shows how far a school is willing to go for you.”


Here I was thinking all along that its what the athlete can do for the school, and their respective team. My bad for forgetting that football is an individual sport and not a team sport.

ETA: great to see a couple of young Tigers show their character.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1522 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:08 am to
The better offer is the $100K because it's $90K more than $10K. Without including any other factors, the only thing to consider is the money, and that seems like easy math.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3749 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:18 am to
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On paper, nothing he said was wrong. If one school has a $100k offer and another has $10k, it would seem on paper that the larger offer appreciates you more.

Or he's being offered as much as these smaller schools can afford. To equate that to being underappreciated is an interesting mindset to say the least.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:55 am to
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Or he's being offered as much as these smaller schools can afford. To equate that to being underappreciated is an interesting mindset to say the least


I don't think the top players in the country are actually considering schools that can't compete, on the field or nil wise, with the top programs. I don't think he was saying that he is ignoring smaller schools because their nil isn't as good. It was more of a comparison of schools on equal footing with their program and nil, but that's just my interpretation from reading it.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:57 am to
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It was more of a comparison of schools on equal footing with their program and nil

Obviously.
Posted by zoom
everywhere
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:05 pm to
Weeks statement is wise.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3321 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:25 pm to
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The better offer is the $100K because it's $90K more than $10K. Without including any other factors, the only thing to consider is the money, and that seems like easy math.


Yea - If you offered me or any of these posters 10k vs 100k at 18, 95% go with the 100k.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Here I was thinking all along that its what the athlete can do for the school, and their respective team. My bad for forgetting that football is an individual sport and not a team sport.


Don’t play dumb. Even before NIL, the recruiting pitch was always about what LSU could do for you.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7293 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:35 pm to
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If Miami offers a DE $100K and LSU offers $10k, which offer is better?



This is a poor way to look at it. In experiments, you control for only one variable. So assume it's two programs on the same level. Say Bama and Georgia.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41860 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Miami offers a DE $100K and LSU offers $10k, which offer is better?


It can't be just about that $100k

Create an NIL with attractive goodies too.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26614 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:13 pm to
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These kids need to understand that this phrase turns off more people than it turns on.

But, it is a free country
Yes it is a free country and us adults say a lot of things and expect everybody to feel the same way we feel when in reality it is offensive to some. You're never going to please everybody so just say what you want to say, or maybe not... People say they love and want transparency until they actually get it.

The kid had an opinion that ANY WORKING ADULT would understand and that many use as a rule in life. The only problem is that because they are kids and because this has always been something that was never paid for, "adults" are in their feelings about it.

If a set of rules were established with all of this, we wouldn't have this animosity towards paying these guys. Well, to be more precise, we wouldn't have such a large group with animosity towards it like it is coming out of their pockets or taxes. Some people will still have a selfish mindset about it.
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