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re: 2019 Quarterback

Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:44 am to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:44 am to
I'm not talking about fricking stats! LOL Anybody can pull up got damn stats to make a team or someone look bad, but they don't tell the whole fricking story if you watched the game, some of those INT's were tipped balls anyways. But as I said I watched Harris and he did some things he never did at LSU probably from Fedora working with him, good things he did, but the damage was already done because he would do those good things and then immediately do the bad shite he did at LSU. It even frustrated Fedora, I could see it all over Fedora face basically saying to himself, dammit, Brandon wtf are you doing. LOL

And I really don't wanna talk about this shite anymore because it's always useless arguing with people that wanna see what they wanna fricking see. All those past QB's careers are over and done any damn ways, but I bet if you asked any of them if they had it all over would they commit to a LSU, they all would say hell NO. LOL
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:53 am to
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I'm not talking about fricking stats! LOL Anybody can pull up got damn stats to make a team or someone look bad, but they don't tell the whole fricking story if you watched the game


Good lord you are dumb, you cannot spin Harris "played better" at UNC whatsoever. He was fricking terrible and got benched multiple times. Do you really think you're the only one here who wacthed that trainwreck happen at UNC (Hint you AREN'T)? If he was so playing so well why did he keep getting benched, especially after multiple INT games in game 1, and then VT/UVA? Do you know more than his own coaches too? Why didn't they ride him out?

Spin this all you want, every single fact points to Harris sucking badly at UNC. Ask any UNC fans, they will say the same thing. He was garbage.

His sophomore season at LSU was INFINITELY better than his last year at UNC, there's absolutely no questioning it. Your comment about him playing better at UNC than here made absolutely zero sense because he was complete garbage there. 1 TD to 8 INT doesn't lie.

Here's his game against Cal:
Both interceptions are on him towards end

At 1:26 he throws into double coverage for an easy pick.
At 1:43 he throws again into double coverage which is tipped by the LB (way down the field, NOT at LOS) and intercepted by the DB. The guy never learned how to read coverages, he may have a strong arm and some athleticism, but that's all he ever possessed.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by hfick
Memphis
Member since Nov 2017
1 post
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:07 am to
Don't know but I watched this kid play a few weeks ago and his only offer right now is Austin Peay... Feel like he could be a diamond in the rough. LINK
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12330 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:11 am to
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LSU can get a 5 Star Qb and it won’t make a god damn difference. There is no one on staff capable of developing a quarterback.


This is the truth yet they down vote the crap out of you.


No shite, it’s almost like these people haven’t watch LSU football over the past 10 years.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 11:22 am to
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Man, he hardly moved the damn ball at LSU, honestly, I don't know what some of y'all were looking at


Okay here you go. His stats while at LSU. And you can't say you're not talking about stats!! What the frick are you looking at? You should just quit already because it's making you look like a dumbass, truly!

Harris was a God awful QB, here and at UNC! Thank God I don't have to look at that long expressionless face! After that pick in that Wisconsin game if I could have reached thru my TV I would have slapped that face along with Miles all in one swing!

LSU Stats:

187/418 2756 yards 53.9%
20TD 10INT

News flash, he hardly moved the damn ball at LSU because he couldn't fricking move the ball!
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 11:26 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Legendre's options are right now are pretty much FSU or bust. He isnt getting much other interest, he just doesnt translate as a QB that well, never understood him being a 4-star QB. 4-star ATH, I would totally get it. Extremely inconsistent throwing the football.



Although I will say if it comes down it, he may get an offer and they look at him as an ATH, his best position may not be QB at this level, much like Russell Shepard. He's a good enough athlete and has the size to play a lot of positions besides QB.
Posted by PutinFan
Southeast
Member since Mar 2018
332 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:37 pm to
Legendre will end up at Tulane, UTSA or ULL.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:38 pm to
Dude, I'm really finished with this because these jerks have got my goat, as they say, I'm old school and played ball for Spike Dykes at TTech in the 80's. But I'll answer you, it's simple Cameron really had much more control over the offense at that time because it was his first year or season with Miles. And so he ran a offense that he pretty much called the plays he wanted to run which included a lot more passing and all. He called really good plays back then with passing the ball a good deal mixing it in with the run and even some no huddle, but the emphasis was much more on the pass then the run early on. That's why Landry and Beckham put up the kind of stats that they did back then, but you could see that Miles really didn't like it, and so it started to change back to what he (Miles) likes to do most- the run. But thank god Beckham and Landry were able to catch the ball a lot and put up the stats that they did, it helped them get drafted high in the NFL draft. If Miles had taken back control of the offense that season sooner they wouldn't have had the eye popping numbers that they had.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 1:46 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:46 pm to
I honestly believe a more versatile Oline is the difference from LSU being good or great.Would really like to see the Tigers be more aggressive with out of state linemen,particularly up north.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:51 pm to
Yeah, I hear you. This OLine is young and rather inexperienced right now, I think they'll get better in time. But Traore and Lewis is not what people thought they would be, it's one thing dominating at the Juco level and a whole nother ball game doing that in the SEC. Getting back the LT Charles will help, but if they had Ingram and Magee that would help immensely also. Take it easy, brah.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Yeah, I hear you. This OLine is young and rather inexperienced right now, I think they'll get better in time. But Traore and Lewis is not what people thought they would be, it's one thing dominating at the Juco level and a whole nother ball game doing that in the SEC. Getting back the LT Charles will help, but if they had Ingram and Magee that would help immensely also. Take it easy, brah.



Lewis has been our best graded lineman this year short of Deculus' performance at LT against SELA. Actually a decent bit better than Cush and Brumfield.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 4:03 pm to
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Well they did and they both sucked arse.


It would take longer than one year to undo what Les Miles did to them. I think he meant had they gone straight from high school to a school that had some inkling on how to develop QBs, their careers would have been much different. Not after all their confidence and swagger were destroyed by Les Miles. Harris was a nervous wreck when he left LSU. As a freshman he had confidence and swagger.

For some though, it is a way to prove they are correct that "dual threat" QBs are incapable of playing QB in college. They would never admit that it was not the QBs but the lack of development of the QBs, the conservative and predictable play calling and the play not to lose mentality of Les Miles that prevented the proper development of what were promising QBs.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 4:14 pm to
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I think LSU's evaluation of recruits has been pretty good except for their evaluation of QB's. Especially true for Miles staff. They missed on some good QB's because they couldn't evaluate QB's very well at all. I mean, everybody in the world wanted Brandon Harris. Nearly everybody in LSU land said LSU had to get this guy. Harris just wasn't a good QB. But nobody wanted Dak Prescot. I mean nobody on Miles staff that I know of wanted him. I think Cameron got on him late, maybe, but too late to bring him to BR. It's just a difficult position to evaluate. So, when O says he is looking at a great QB, doesn't mean we fans have ever heard of him because he isn't rated high in the services. I still believe Brennan will develop into a very good QB at LSU. He may have only one season to start and show his ability, but I think he will and have a great season.


Do you earnestly believe had Dak Prescott come to LSU under Les Miles, he would have been developed and would be an NFL starter now. I highly doubt it! Did you see Dak play as a freshman. Harris played better than him as a freshman. Harris had a decent sophomore season on par with Etling's senior season. Then his development was put in reverse.

Miles' fear of the turnover, predictable offense and playing not to lose made it virtually impossible for a QB to grow and thrive. He neutered his QBs. I would love to have seen Harris developed at Clemson, FSU, TCU, Ohio State or Oregon.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/15/18 at 8:16 am to
Right on, bro! You got it, that's exactly what I was saying or trying to say, I didn't know that I literally had to spell it out on here, but you still picked up on it. Bravo, my man! And on Dak Prescott, Miles wanted to make the kid a TE or FB, not surprising considering the source. LOL
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2229 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:03 pm to
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I'm dumb cocksucker, no you're the MF that's dumb! I read y'alls stupid arse comments on here all the time and laugh to myself because not a peon of you pricks have played any kind of organized sports in your damn life, but you throw out critiques and comments as if you have. LOL I've played competitive sports since the age of 5 of all the way up to the college ranks, but I don't throw it out on here because I know how you pricks can be with the insults on here. I'll trust my knowledge of a game I've played all of my young life over your wanna be nerdish bookworm arse knowledge any damn day. Like I said it's useless arguing with morons such as yourself, you can pull all the stats and crap out of your arse that you want to, but you're as dumb as a box of bricks. LOL Now spin your arse away from here! LOL


You’ve got to be a troll right??? If not you’re a moron and if you played College ball I’m assuming it’s because of god given athletic ability and not Game smarts. Yes many posters on here (mainly TRant) Don’t know their heads from their arse talking about sports but the recruiting board is normally better even if you’re making it worse.
Many posters on here also played sports through College and some pro as well as have coached. I played football for 15 years from age 7 and some of the best coaches, analysts, talent evaluators I’ve seen were not former athletes. Is that the norm? No but it’s still true.
Ask coach Will Wade about his playing days and then ask if that makes him a bad coach or talent evaluator.
Cursing and calling others names in an otherwise civil debate really makes you look like a jackass.

If I were you I’d rewatch B. Harris’ game tape and try to be objective. You’ll clearly see he telegraphs his throws, gets happy feet, forces throws, and just flat out isn’t a very good QB. And if you wanna go back and forth over “playing in College” I’d be more than happy to as I have quite a few pro athletes in my family tree and even more coaches. Take a breather, find a friend, and ask him for a hug. You obviously need one
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11194 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:29 pm to
You're best to just ignore that guy. He's often completely wrong and lashes out when you try and correct him. I'm really not sure what his deal is, but lately he's been really confrontational and belligerent. It's weird because he's been posting here for a while, but I don't remember him being this bad in the past.
Posted by CFFO
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2005
332 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:39 am to
Gunnell plays in the Texas private school league. So 6A in the private school league is probably equivalent to 3A ball. (My guesstimate but you get the point).
Posted by MTB
Houston
Member since Aug 2007
1432 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 10:13 am to
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Gunnell plays in the Texas private school league. So 6A in the private school league is probably equivalent to 3A ball. (My guesstimate but you get the point).


FWIW- Gunnel is 12-0 against UIL competition the past 3 years. This includes 5-0 against UIL 6A as well as a 58-41 win last year at eventual 5A UIL State Champ College Station HS.

Also, his team is the #13 ranked team in TX (among all conferences/classifications) according to MaxPreps. You are correct, his school is 3A in size but plays a bit bigger.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71554 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 10:26 am to
I think we could also agree his league is still much better than Brennan's Mississippi private school league. Brennan also performed well in non-league games against top flight teams.

Still my opinion of what's left realistically at QB, Gunnell is a guy you go after over options like Kadum from Rome, GA or chase your tail in circles for Tauila Tag. And I only say that because I do believe Gunnell will be looking back around soon if he isnt already.
Posted by PutinFan
Southeast
Member since Mar 2018
332 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
Wish we'd try to flip Sam Howell from FSU. Lots of angles to play to try to accomplish that.
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