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Zone 9 (Alabama Gulf Coast) Costal / Tropical Flower Bed Idea?

Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Fishwater
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:15 pm
Look for flower bed ideas for Zone 9 / Alabama Gulf Coast that are Coastal / Tropical?

I've had ginger plants and philodendrons but the past two winters have nearly killed them. Had to cut them all the way back and takes nearly all summer to grow back.

Any other plants that would be good for this area?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:44 pm to
This is searchable by county and has an extensive list of plants for the area. You can choose your county and go from there. It is annoying, though, because it doesn't have pictures.
Alabama Plant Atlas (Flora of Alabama)
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:25 pm to
If you want tropicals in zone 9, you just need to accept some level of cold protection.

That being said, I've had great results with sago palm, Chinese fan palm, canna lilies, banana plants, elephant ears, shell ginger, Meyer lemon, navel oranges, and lilies of the Nile. Of all of those, only the sagos and Chinese fan palms make it through the zone 9 winters unscathed without protection.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2500 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:46 pm to
I recently did a garden for someone with a corner courtyard-like space made from a north and east facing wall intersecting. I wanted to plant philodendron but read that its cold tolerance isn’t great. We substituted an upright elephant ear as the back corner tallest plant (a Fatsia Japonica was a possible alternative, due to better cold tolerance.) Next we put some hydrangeas (not tropical but always wanted to try), then some Autumn Fern (supposed to be cold tolerant), will maybe put some hostas, then caladiums. This is a mostly shaded bed with morning sun. We are also zone 9a.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:31 am to
Try some native grasses
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
6056 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:56 am to
I had a monstera and a philodendron outside last summer. They actually tolerated the cold pretty well until we had freezing rain and that killed the entire monstera plant and knocked out the philodendron. But, then philodendron is coming back as they always do in the spring.

Think I've decided to try a Silver saw palm this time. The neighbor has a bunch and they look great year round.

Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4207 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:04 pm to
Not sure how large an area you want but here goes:

Shampoo ginger
Piper auritum
Tropical or native passion vine
Florida Native Firebush
Agapanthus
Day lilies
Hardy Begonia
Bottlebrush (yellow is too cold sensitive for 9a, red, white, and pink are OK)
Crinum Lily
Ornamental Sweet potato vine
Camellias or Sasanquas for a faster growing version
Plumbago
Standard & Oakleaf hydrangea (trying a paniculata this year also)
Japanese flowering quince
I'm also trying cleyera "juliet" and "romeo" this year for the foliage

Palm-wise:
Most Sabals
Canary & Standard date Palms
Butia/Pindo Palm
Windmill Palm
Mule palm
Needle Palm
European Fan Palm
Washingtonias & hybrids


I have grown all the above, with no protection, in zone 8b about 2hrs from the coast. I've been doing this about 15 years, these plants have seen 18F and 3x consecutive nights of 19F. I won't say they've always passed with flying colors, but I've never lost them to cold.

If I lived where you are I would probably try anything hardy to 22-24F. Maybe rhapis excelsa or arenga engleri in the shade. Bismarckia palms are also gorgeous but seem to get wiped out every 5-10 years in zone 9a

If you want fruit, Just Fruits & Exotics nursery is near Tallahassee and has a huge list of trees for zone 9a on their website.

Also, were you growing philodendron bipinnatifidums? I've lost some weaker ones to cold before but usually they are monsters at the coast...7-8ft tall


This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48924 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:15 pm to
in addition to the tropicals, irises are always a good choice and if you want something grassy to break it up, lemongrass is great
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